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System Builders Guide: April R3500 to R9000

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The System Builder’s Guide has been around for roughly two years. I started writing this bi-monthly column in March of 2012 and before that I contributed to the System Builder’s thread on the NAG Forums together with JP “Chevron” Dormehl since its inception in 2009. I’ve been writing and compiling these guides ever since and it’s mostly been unchanged in the presentation – a wall of text, some options in green highlights that were linked and a little total at the bottom. Starting from this month to coincide with the April issue of NAG Magazine’s 2014 revamp, I’m switching the look a little bit to something that’s easier to understand and nicer to look at. I can’t promise there won’t be walls of text but I can promise it will be prettier. Follow me after the jump!

The road so far…

Our last edition of the guide was in February, just over two months ago. I predicted that things would get more expensive and difficult to find and that AMD processors would cease to become viable options without cheaper socket FM2+ motherboards and chips and a decent replacement for AM3+. Well, only the first thing came around, as FM2+ motherboards are now available in decent numbers and at good prices, too. The only issue is that APUs are now overpriced compared to their Intel siblings and only in the first two builds for this month will they make sense – beyond the R4500 budget, Intel typically takes over because their offerings are cheaper and just as powerful and motherboard selection is plentiful.

To that end, I’m still not going to be recommending AMD CPUs by default, not until motherboard selection improves and prices for socket FM2+ APUs drop. Steamroller might be a very strong architecture when compared to K10 Stars, Bulldozer, Piledriver or Jaguar, but the end products are not as cheap or as thermally efficient as Intel’s Haswell. That position would change greatly if pricing and availability would improve, but they haven’t.

This guide is also plopping onto your browser the day after Nvidia’s R337 driver launches on the web, complete with a new Geforce Experience app and a few new features that greatly improves GPU performance. I won’t deny that this will weigh in heavily on my GPU decisions further down the line. Although AMD’s driver team has been doing good work, I can no longer ignore Nvidia’s improvements for Shadowplay, streaming to Twitch, Physx and, thanks to the R337 beta driver, a lot more CPU performance in a manner similar to Mantle, but without the great deal of game re-engineering that goes along with it.

It doesn’t mean that common sense takes its leave when I’m faced with the option of a Geforce GTX660 and a Radeon R9 270X that I’ll choose the weaker Geforce instead, but it does mean that given the fact that Nvidia’s engineers now understand their drivers, the DirectX renderer and their hardware much better and in a more deeper fashion than ever before, it would be very easy to spot a cheap Geforce GTX760 that’s only a little more expensive than the R9 270X and opt for that instead.

Also, an interesting twist revealed itself last month to me – Takealot is now selling computer hardware at a price that’s as low as other vendors, with free shipping for most items. Although I’ve always linked to Rebeltech for their low prices and huge selection of hardware, I’ll be mixing in Takealot this month to see how things go. It may only be a once-off thing for the company but if they continue to keep pricing low, its inevitable that they’ll become South Africa’s version of Newegg.

Regarding the April redesign…

In a chain e-mail I sent to NAG Online’s lord and master, Dane Remendes, he made me promise that I would only put in tables into a column if I could make them pretty. So… Dane, whaddaya think?

The builds in future builder’s guides will look like the ones you’ll see below. There’s a header to show off the budget. a smaller cell below it for the settings that most games should be playable at and the bulk of the table is taken up by the parts, with a side column detailing what each part is along with clickable links to the online store and a price. I made these tables to collate things better but it also forms a check-list for anyone assembling their own build elsewhere.

Use these tables for reference, cut them out and take them with you to shops, print them out and stick them somewhere for motivation, do whatever takes your fancy! Note that because there’s not enough space in the table, I’ll be listing alternative GPUs in the text below as well as alternate configurations – I’ll try keep that short so you don’t have to do much scrolling.

Onward with the builds!

R3500 Budget – Just The Basics

720p with low-to-medium settings and 2x AA
Processor  AMD A6-6400K APU 3.9GHz Unlocked R964
Motherboard  MSI A78M-E35 socket FM2+  R765
Memory  Crucial Ballistix Sport XT DDR3-1866 4GB  R602
Graphics  Integrated Radeon HD8470D  
Power supply  Thermaltake 350W bundled  
Chassis  Thermaltake V2S w/ 350W PSU  R456
Optical drive  Liteon iHAS124 24x DVD-RW  R195
Hard drive  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM  R743
Solid state drive  
Total (Rands):  R3725

Going over budget was entirely because the cheaper FM2 motherboard from MSI that I used in February’s build has been replaced by a newer, better model, the A78M-E35. It’ll do nicely, considering that it has six SATA 6.0GB/s ports, two DIMM slots, front and rear-panel USB 3.0 ports and a decent layout.  With it I’m pairing AMD’s A6-6400K APU with some decent overclocking ability (not that you’ll need it that much) and some very interesting Crucial Ballistix RAM, which I’ve never seen at any other vendor before. These are really decent DDR3-1866 modules and would do nicely to skirt around the bandwidth issues of the integrated HD8470 graphics for the kind of use this machine will see.

The rest of the build is quite “normal,” with a Seagate 1TB hard drive doing the storage duties, a 24-speed DVD writer and Thermaltake’s V2S bundle, which isn’t that bad considering that the bundled PSU is okay. At full blast, this machine won’t even touch on the PSUs capabilities and should ensure a decent lifespan for the hardware. Should you wish to add some SSD storage to the build or replace the hard drive altogether, Sandisk’s SSD Standard 128GB is a good place to start, even if the storage space is minute compared to the hard drive.

Are there Intel equivalents to this build? There are, but the GPU performance of such a build would be questionable. Still, you can swap in the Intel Pentium G3220 and the MSI’s H81M-P33 to drop the total build price to under R3400. However, you wouldn’t be able to play games with anything approaching good quality settings, so it’s best for a workhorse role.

R4500 Budget – The Basics, With Gusto

720p with medium-to-high settings and 2x AA, 1080p with low settings and no AA
Processor Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz LGA1150 R689
Motherboard MSI H81M-P33 LGA1150 R662
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport XT DDR3-1866 4GB R602
Graphics Sapphire Radeon HD R7 250 1GB GDDR5 R1194
Power supply Thermaltake 450W bundled
Chassis Thermaltake V2 w/ 450W PSU R601
Optical drive Liteon iHAS124 24x DVD-RW R195
Hard drive Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM R743
Solid state drive
Total (Rands): R4686

The next step up in our build has an Intel twist to it. Although I normally put the AMD A8-6600K in here, some issues needed to be addressed that would have affected performance. For example, not having cheaper socket FM2/FM2+ boards available for selection meant that I would have to stick to single-channel memory, which would have affected total bandwidth numbers and therefore framerates. Additionally, Intel’s Pentium G3220 is just as powerful in most games, with the added advantage of having 3MB L3 cache, cheaper board selection and a much cheaper price.

While the rest of the build is mostly unchanged, graphics duties are now handled by the Sapphire Radeon R7 250. Compared to the integrated HD8570D graphics inside the A8-6600K, it runs at a much higher clock speed along with very fast GDDR5 memory. Overall, it’ll be a better and more consistent experience, not least because the architecture is also GCN, which benefits from AMD’s Mantle API along with a longer promised run of driver improvements. When Microsoft’s DirectX 12 hits or when game developers begin using tiled resources in DirectX 11.2, you’ll be all set with just a driver change.

For those of you interested in an AMD APU build instead for the simplicity, swap in the MSI A78M-E35 and the AMD A8-6600K APU in place of the processor, motherboard and GPU in this build.

R6500 Budget – The Budget Sweet-spot

720p with Ultra settings and 4x AA, 1080p with high settings and 2x AA
Processor Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz LGA1150 R1362
Motherboard ASRock H81M LGA1150 R895
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport XT DDR3-1866 4GB R602
Graphics Gigabyte Geforce GTX750 1GB GDDR5 R1867
Power supply Corsair VS350 350W R406
Chassis Zalman ZM-Z1 Midi tower R396
Optical drive Liteon iHAS124 24x DVD-RW R195
Hard drive Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM R743
Solid state drive
Total (Rands): R6466

We arrive at our budget sweet-spot. R6500 is the minimum amount you need to budget for a rig that will play absolutely everything with decent settings at 1080p and with acceptable framerates that just hit 60fps in most cases. We hit it off with an upgrade to Intel’s Core i3-4130 and ASRock’s H81M motherboard along with the Crucial Ballistix RAM that’s been loafing along for the ride so far. This combination of parts is pretty performant and Intel’s hyper-threading technology has come so far that the i3-4130’s game performance is almost equal to the Core i5-4440. There will be some cases where the gap is much larger, but the Core i3 family is good enough for most scenarios.

Where things majorly differ here is the inclusion of the Maxwell-based Geforce GTX750. Although it only has 1GB of VRAM compared to its rival, the Radeon R7 260X which typically ships  with 2GB of memory, the GTX750 is more energy efficient and, with the latest R337 drivers, more powerful. Plus, you’re getting the full benefits of Geforce Experience including Shadowplay and Physx, which when properly implemented can change your game experience significantly. Do those drivers really improve things, though? A 66-page (and growing) thread on the Overclock.net forums seems to agree.

The rest of the build swaps out the Thermaltake V2 bundle for the Zalman ZM-Z1 midi tower, which has a good internal layout and cable management and the Corsair VS350, which is more than enough juice for this rig even when the GPU is inevitably overclocked. If you’re looking for AMD alternatives, they don’t exist, but there is still the option of swapping out the GTX750 for it’s equal, the AMD Radeon R7 260X from MSI. If it sways your purchase decision, the R7 260X still qualifies for AMD’s Radeon Rewards promotion, although you’ll have to check with the vendor first to see if they still have codes available.

R9500 Budget – The Beginning of Mid-Range

1080p on Ultra details and 4x AA, 2560 x 1440 with medium details and no AA
Processor Intel Core i5-4570 3.2-3.6GHz LGA1150 R2391
Motherboard ASRock Z87 Pro 3 LGA1150 R1349
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport XT DDR3-1866 8GB R1204
Graphics Powercolor Radeon R9 270X TurboDuo 2GB GDDR5 R2599
Power supply Corsair VS550 550W R543
Chassis Corsair Carbide 200R Mid tower R646
Optical drive
Hard drive Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM R743
Solid state drive
Total (Rands): R9475

Rounding off our guide for today, we’re stopping at the R9500 price point. Prices have been mostly stable since the February guide and this is a good thing, because online vendors can compete on price again knowing that there’s not going to be severe price changes that affect their bottom line. Here we’ve moved up in the world to the Core i5-4570, ASRock’s no-frills Z87 Pro 3 motherboard and, finally, 8GB of DDR3-1866 memory. You may have to set the XMP profile in the BIOS to run the memory at its correct speed, but this isn’t a hassle when you consider the price is cheaper than any other similarly-specced modules on the market right now.

Going down, we’re switching back to AMD for the Radeon R9 270X because not only is it faster than the competing Geforce GTX750 Ti and GTX660, it’s also much cheaper than either one, at least in Powercolor’s version. The R9 270X has a wider 256-bit memory bus, two 6-pin PCI PEG power connectors for overclocking headroom and a very swanky dual-fan cooler which will ensure that the card never throttles itself.

Should the GTX660 fall down to the same price then it might be worth consideration, however it won’t fare very well once you crank up the detail settings at 2560 x 1440. The power supply and chassis also see small jumps to a 550W unit and the Carbide 200R which is both understated and very roomy internally.

An AMD alternative build would swap in the FX-6350 six-core unlocked processor with the MSI 970A-G46 socket AM3+ motherboard or alternatively the A10-7700K with the MSI A88X-G43 socket FM2+ board. Neither build is perfect but both will put up admirable results – the Kaveri APU would actually post up higher minimum framerates compared to the FX-6300 because Steamroller is much more efficient in gaming scenarios than Piledriver and won’t hold the R9 270X back.

That’s all for this week’s edition of the guide! Tune in next Tuesday for the jump to the mid-range budgets. Let me know in the comments below and in the forums how you like the redesign? Yes, no, maybe?

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  • Jacqui Pirzenthal

    Great new look and easy to follow pricing guides.

  • Wikkelzzz

    Glad to see you went with takealot, I recently build myself a gaming rig and bought 90% of my components from them because they were surprisingly the cheapest

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

      Honestly, it was a bit of a shock to see them pricing things so cheaply. Its almost, but not quite, like the Prophecy vs Take2 days where Take2 was always cheaper, with a bigger selection and free shipping.

  • Steven Ray Kenney

    I’m too lazy to do research but, I’m pretty sure Rebeltech will be cheaper with most of the stuff as they generally are.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

      I had a hundred tabs open today with about a 50-50 split between Rebeltech and Takealot. In most cases the latter is cheaper and that’s not yet taking shipping into account. And I purposely only looked for hardware that was available in both places. There are one or a few links to Wootware, but that’s it.

  • Byron Will-Noel

    Solid Builds Wesley. How about a buyers guide for gaming laptops next?

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

      Laptops will start up again next month :)

      • Byron Will-Noel

        Great! By then I should be back in the US & will be in the market for something!

  • Thomas

    I pretty much have the R9500 build.

    I built it all a few weeks ago.

    Only small changes:

    i5 4440

    AMC R9 270 (not the x version)

    ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance MOBO (got this based on it’s looks and the fact that I won’t be over clocking)

    G.Skill F3 2x4GB DDR3-1600 1.25V Sniper RAM

    The same power supply.

    And the CoolerMaster NSE-300 case with a windowed side panel

    Seeing as I would need to use this for work and gaming I decided to also splurge on a nice keyboard and mouse. I got the Steelseries apex RAW as well as the Corsair Raptor LM3 mouse.

    I’ve tested one or two games and I am extremely happy with the results.

    Did some work over the weekend (graphic design and photo editing) and it ran smoother than what I hoped for.

    So I am very happy.

    ps. watercooling and lighting on its way soon. (Basically just because the stock cpu cooler is extremely ugly and I would like it to be very clean and minimalist on the inside.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

      Excellent! That’s a good choice of hardware. Since you’re on a locked CPU, you can also go a little cheaper on the water cooler because heat won’t be a problem.

  • Wikkelzzz

    Question from my side, in the R6500 build, you use the 350W psu, and below you mention you can swap out the gtx 750 for the AMD Radeon R7 260X if you wanna go with amd, will the 350W still be sufficient though?

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

      Easily. I don’t have the hardware or a kill-a-watt meter to test this decisively, but that rig with a R7 260X would be pulling no more than 220W from the wall in non-gaming scenarios. In games, that’ll drop to around 170W. At idle on the desktop, it’ll drop all the way down to around 60W.

  • Jonathan King

    Hey Wesley what would you recommend for a budget upgrade from a Q6600 775, 4GB RAM and HD5770?

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

      Difficult to say at the moment because I don’t know what games you play or at what resolution or what budget you have.

      If you’re starting small, definitely have a look at a Geforce GTX750 for starters. Nvidia’s driver teams are doing some interesting things with the removal of CPU bottlenecks in games and it’ll give your Q6600 about another year of service before you should start looking at a platform upgrade. You’ll still be limited by VRAM, but your average and minimum framerates will see a big jump. AMD’s Radeon R7 260X 2GB is also a good option if you can find it for under R1800. Flip a coin if they’re similarly priced, choose one and carry on.

      If you’re looking at a complete system upgrade, something like the R9500 budget increases performance by at least 3x in every metric I can think of. If you use your existing hard drive/s, you can fit in a 120GB SSD from SanDisk (http://www.takealot.com/computers/sandisk-standard-solid-state-drive-128gb,27187564) for a total less than R10,000.

      • Jonathan King

        Cool thank you!

        • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Fick/184346154999538 Wesley Fick

          Cool beans, I hope it helps :)

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