View Full Version : Japan Pledges to Land Humanoid Robots on the Moon by 2020
Kharrak
05-04-2009, 10:35 AM
http://i.gizmodo.com/5197523/japan-pledges-to-land-humanoid-robot-on-moon-by-2020
And soon we will have our very own self-governed robot civilization on the moon, plotting the death of all fleshy creatures.
Ajust
05-04-2009, 01:37 PM
Sounds teh awesomeness.
EDIT: I just realised: I'll be 32 in 2020! ><
Sounds like Transformers to me
Garson007
05-04-2009, 04:43 PM
Why humanoid? *facepalm*
Uranium238
05-04-2009, 05:00 PM
I don't think Japan will make the deadline because firstly: You have design rockets and space vehicles and that takes a lot of time and secondly because we humans are far form creating humanoid robots because there still alot of things that need to be created to make a humanoid robot like for example: an AI that is exactly the same as human intellignce ( because it will have to know what it should do when say a crisis happens ). But if Japan succeeds, well than they can give themselfs a pat on the back.
X-Gamer
05-04-2009, 10:08 PM
I don't think Japan will make the deadline because firstly: You have design rockets and space vehicles and that takes a lot of time and secondly because we humans are far form creating humanoid robots because there still alot of things that need to be created to make a humanoid robot like for example: an AI that is exactly the same as human intellignce ( because it will have to know what it should do when say a crisis happens ). But if Japan succeeds, well than they can give themselfs a pat on the back.
Landing on the moon? Thats old hat, they probably got that from the Americans, added a few turbo's , some LED's, a few Asimo's and Aibo's and you're off. (nasa landed on the moon in 1969 remember?).
Now Humanoid Robots, well, the thing is, AI wont happen. Humanoid means the form, the shape, the physical design. Not the "intellignce" if you can call it that. Ever heard of Software?
As for what to do in a crisis, I'm sure they'd be babysitting all the way dude.
^ Don't even know why you spent time replying to that mate.
Why humanoid? *facepalm*
http://www.atomiccomics.com/Portals/0/robotech-5.jpg
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wrathex
06-04-2009, 12:36 AM
http://i.gizmodo.com/5197523/japan-pledges-to-land-humanoid-robot-on-moon-by-2020
And soon we will have our very own self-governed robot civilization on the moon, plotting the death of all fleshy creatures.
A humanoid looking robot that vacuums or cuts machinary or spews forth a bit of progamming is not a threat at all.
The moon however is a sensitive location, the nation who first assembles a weapon there will in effect be able to hold the planet hostage.
The last thing this planet needs is a weapon on the moon capable of damaging the planet.
If it ever comes up in the future, remember this warning.
HolyMackerel
06-04-2009, 09:59 AM
What would the humanoid robots do on the moon, except plan their destruction of all fleshlings!!
I mean, seriously, there is ****-all on the moon except dust and rocks. Maybe I just don't share the same enthusiasm as the Japanese. . .
Uranium238
06-04-2009, 10:04 AM
What would the humanoid robots do on the moon, except plan their destruction of all fleshlings!!
I mean, seriously, there is ****-all on the moon except dust and rocks. Maybe I just don't share the same enthusiasm as the Japanese. . .
Well there is certain minerals of high importance ( I can't think of any right now ) and the robots could start construction on a moon city where man could eventually stay when Earth becomes overpopulated.
Oh and X-gamer. Yes NASA did land on the moon but the Saturn V rockets and all the other space vehicals that was needed are old ( NASA is currently developing new rockets that could take man to the moon again ).
Turkish
06-04-2009, 10:30 AM
^ Don't even know why you spent time replying to that mate.
http://www.atomiccomics.com/Portals/0/robotech-5.jpg
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You stupid Fokker.
Uranium238
07-04-2009, 01:06 PM
But one should ask one question in this discussion. Why send humaniod robots instead of humans? Since the robots are going to look like humans, and thus the equipment while be designed for the human body and interaction, why not send ordanary humans. You would save a lot of money by not going into the development of these robots.
Ajust
07-04-2009, 01:14 PM
But one should ask one question in this discussion. Why send humaniod robots instead of humans? Since the robots are going to look like humans, and thus the equipment while be designed for the human body and interaction, why not send ordanary humans. You would save a lot of money by not going into the development of these robots.
Well I assume it has something to do with the effects of low gravity on humans.
Humans need to work out alot while in space to retain bone mass, and afaik even that doesn't sustain it completely.
Spindleshanks
07-04-2009, 01:17 PM
Well I assume it has something to do with the effects of low gravity on humans.
Humans need to work out alot while in space to retain bone mass, and afaik even that doesn't sustain it completely.
Actually, with today's laws on environmental protection and human rights, it's almost impossible to send anything to the moon, let alone a human.
Garson007
07-04-2009, 05:49 PM
But one should ask one question in this discussion. Why send humaniod robots instead of humans? Since the robots are going to look like humans, and thus the equipment while be designed for the human body and interaction, why not send ordanary humans. You would save a lot of money by not going into the development of these robots.
We're talking Japan here, not China.
Anyways, the whole reason for going to the moon again is to actually take more samples from the lunar surface, as well as to develop the necessary skill and technology to allow people to survive on a non-Terran based facility. This all exists because a second space race is coming; USA specifically want a permanently manned lunar base up around 2030. After this has been completed I expect a rotating space station, making use of centripetal force to simulate gravity, to be built at a lagrange point. That's like around 2045. Expect people on mars around 2060, or for historical glory 2069.
KNiVeS
07-04-2009, 05:59 PM
That's all we need... A bunch of ten year old schoolgirl robots upskirting their way around the moon. :HK:
The moon will be one of the primary stations when we start our journey to the mars. Setting up a Station on the moon will greatly enhance the way of transportation ie. storing fuel and replaceable materials there for the larger transportation vessels.
This is no joke guys, they are seriously planning to start the "Great Journey" by max 2040.
So first finding out more about the moon by sending Humanoids, is a perfect place to test them, either for labor work or military uses, since on earth they are rather easily exploited.
Drakus
07-04-2009, 08:10 PM
The Japanese are very capable of doing it. When they set a deadline, it will happen. They beat even the Germans at being on time.
Soppy
08-04-2009, 02:12 PM
I think humanoid robots may be a good idea until the radiation issue is solved, even more so for a Mars mission. Perhaps that is the ultimate aim.
Among the many physical risks facing astronauts sent to the Moon or Mars, the biggest danger will also be the least visible: radiation. This is nuclear particles that are spewed out by the Sun -- and which in storms called solar flares can be potentially lethal -- or arrive at almost light speed from beyond the Solar System, a phenomenon called cosmic rays. The particles slice through strands of DNA, boosting the risk of cancer and other ailments.
Manned missions in low orbit, such as the US space shuttle, the Soviet-era Mir and the International Space Station (ISS), are mostly protected by Earth's magnetic field, the magnetosphere.
The Apollo trips to the Moon, beyond this shield, took a calculated risk, for the missions were of short duration, of up to 12 days.
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Space_Radiation_Could_Be_A_Mars_Mission_Killer_999 .html
Garson007
08-04-2009, 02:52 PM
I think humanoid robots may be a good idea until the radiation issue is solved, even more so for a Mars mission. Perhaps that is the ultimate aim.
It still begs the question of "Why humanoid?" Now sure, they'll look like humans - but how exactly does that help us in determining anything about space? I for one cannot see this. Stick to tried and tested rovers, please. :)
Uranium238
08-04-2009, 03:11 PM
It still begs the question of "Why humanoid?" Now sure, they'll look like humans - but how exactly does that help us in determining anything about space? I for one cannot see this. Stick to tried and tested rovers, please. :)
I agree with this. I have seen a documentry at the IMAX about the to Mars rovers that NASA has receantly build. You could see that it took a lot of trouble and a lot money of making these rovers. Now imagne the cost and the time of creating humaniod robots. Thus I would say that if Japan wants to send robots that they should rather send rovers instead of humaniod robots.
It still begs the question of "Why humanoid?" Now sure, they'll look like humans - but how exactly does that help us in determining anything about space? I for one cannot see this. Stick to tried and tested rovers, please. :)
Dont we all want to see this lil buddy in action? ^.-
http://www.generationaldynamics.com/ww2010/irobot1.jpg
It has been a dream for almost 100 years, to create human like machines.
There is no real purpose, it just looks ****ing hawnt :)
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