The "Lost" thread

[TiNRiB]

Not sure how many Lost fans there are here... But do you think the show has gone downhill?

I just finished watch Season 5 episodes 1-9... Its a little confusing (as usual) up to about epi 6 or 7 but also ties up a few loose ends quite nicely... what do you guys think?

^^ Anything here count as Spoilers?

[onona]

I'm loving the new direction of the show. I watch it quite religiously every week.

[Banlam]

Same, enjoying this season a hell of a lot, and also love their take on time travel, how you can't change the future no matter what you do in the past. It prevents so many of the paradoxes found in many other stories/movies. But I must know what happens to Ben after Sayid shot him!

[Isengard]

I finished season 4 a few months ago and was left completely confused (can you get any more confused in lost?). I read an interesting theory on a site that seemed to really make a lot of sense of all the strange happenings. I dare not say what I read because what they came up with is pretty plausible and might actually come to fruition when they actually start giving some answers in LOST.

I love the show!

[pArkEr]

I still have to rent Season 3 (I was late to the party). And I thought Heroes was confusing.

[Ajust]

Oh **** I hate spoilers and I just read one despite its tags >_>"
*plasters the bullet-wound*

I'm only up to season 4, which was the best of Lost yet.

Anyone have an idea when season 5 will be out on DVD?
I assume somewtime in November.

[Banlam]

Oh **** I hate spoilers and I just read one despite its tags >_>"
*plasters the bullet-wound*

Apologies.

[James Donaldson]

I have a love/hate relationship with LOST. I can't stand to sit through a single episode anymore, but I still HAVE to know what happened. :)

[RAVEN]

I, too, am loving the current direction - it all seems to be... ummmm, hang five... coming full circle. In fact, my current theory (I go through these frequently, so I never expect to be correct!) is that the story will end with the main characters bringing about the events that led them to being there in the first place - which, of course, is a paradox after all (the "ontological paradox".) All in all, I'm enjoying the "sci-fi-esqueness" of it now :)

[Bonezmann]

It's amazing how it changed from surviving a plane crash to where it is now. I've only seen about two eps of season five, as for the rest of the season I'll wait untill the dvd comes out. The eps from the web are just too low on quality and I'm not downloading 300mb for 45minutes.

Hurley stays my favourite after al this time. ;)

[Ajust]

Apologies.

My fault :)

[Xm@niac!]

I think LOST is, well, LOST.

[Garson007]

Every year, again and again, this show... It simply amazes me. I don't think I've ever watched a more exciting show over such a long period of time.

[ioiiooio]

Just started watching season 1. I'm enjoying all the mystery so far, but I can't help but feel that half-way through season 2 I'll probably lose interest cos they always drag these things out way too much and it ends up feeling like it's going nowhere. Like some kind of glorified soapy or something. Heroes and Prison break spring to mind (although I'm told Season 3 of Heroes gets better).

[pArkEr]

I thought the same thing. Once you get to it though, you'll be surprised to find out it gets better and better. You start to see different sides to characters, and the mystery deepens. What I like is that the producers knew where they were going with the show. Not like the Prison Break writers, who lost the plot ages ago.

There are only going to be six seasons of the show, if that is any indication. So enjoy it while it lasts. It's not called the greatest television show ever for nothing!

[Ajust]

@ioiiooio: The start of season 2 is about as low as the show goes. From there it's up and up.

[Falafel]

Are you guys kidding me? I think Season 5 is utter trite. It is just sooooooooooo booooooooooring. Can't believe it's the same show as the previous 4 seasons. I'll finish it one day, though, when I have the time - that's the thing about a show with so many loose ends like LOST; you have to find out what happens.

[brazed]

Meh, I thought this season is absolutely incredible, and by far the best show on TV.

[Ajust]

Meh, I thought this season is absolutely incredible, and by far the best show on TV.

*huggles the dragon*

[pArkEr]

I can't find season 3 anywhere. I've been to Musica, Look and Listen and Mr. Video, they only have season 4. Anyone know of any place in Cape Town that has it?

[onona]

You could order it from kalahari.net (http://www.kalahari.net/dvd/Lost/2/30766207.aspx), Parker.

[TiNRiB]

I'll finish it one day, though, when I have the time - that's the thing about a show with so many loose ends like LOST; you have to find out what happens.

Did you not read the opening post of this thread?

[pArkEr]

That won't be necessary, found it at a Musica in Canal Walk. Thanks anyway.

[Falafel]

Meh, I thought this season is absolutely incredible, and by far the best show on TV.

Really? There are much better shows - shows that focus on quality rather than sensationalist antics to "hook" viewers. But, to each his own, I guess. Personally, HBO shows like The Wire and The Sopranos are a lot more appealing to me.

[Ajust]

Really? There are much better shows - shows that focus on quality rather than sensationalist antics to "hook" viewers. But, to each his own, I guess. Personally, HBO shows like The Wire and The Sopranos are a lot more appealing to me.

The Wire??
I couldn't stand that tripe, so yeah, "to each his own" I guess :/

[brazed]

Really? There are much better shows - shows that focus on quality rather than sensationalist antics to "hook" viewers. But, to each his own, I guess. Personally, HBO shows like The Wire and The Sopranos are a lot more appealing to me.

You can have your own opinion, but I'd hardly say Lost is lacking in quality.

Anyway, last night's episode (doubt any of you would have seen it yet) was awesome. Shows you a helluva lot of Ben and what happens to him.

[X-Gamer]

Anyone see the latest Ep? "I see dead people!!!" Brilliant! I cant help but love this show!
But honestly, its cool that they planned things so far ahead,
it distinguishes shows like LOST from kak like Heroes.

(read only if you saw the latest Heroes eps, S3 ep 23)
"OMG My Sister I never had (the one that lived in a hole for 50 years bcoz i told her to) is alive!!!!" Where do they suck this crap out from???
Another show that still entertains is Supernatural, I cant get enough!

[.exe]

I took a chance on Lost a few years ago.

My sister asked me what I wanted for Christmas and not having anything specific in mind, I suggested Lost to her.
I'm obsessed with the show now. Every Christmas I get the new season and I just watch it non-stop until it's done. Then I get depressed because I have to wait another year for the next season. Yes, I could watch the episodes on TV, but I couldn't stand the agony of waiting to see what happens in the next episode.
I'm not the only one. Everyone to whom I have lent the series has become Lost fanatics.

When finally Lost ends, I just might top myself.

[onona]

When finally Lost ends, I just might top myself.

:/

[ioiiooio]

I?ve just finished Season 3 and I?m still enjoying all the mystery. There is one issue I had though with one of the episodes: There are these two random characters who were introduced mid-way, straight away I knew they would be killed off somewhere along the line. I had no idea, however, that they?d dedicate an entire episode to these two peoples story, a story that had little to no bearing on the plot line whatsoever. It was the story of the two lovers who stole diamonds from some old dude they conned, honestly you could have removed the entire episode and you wouldn?t have missed much at all, it was a story of its own and not a very original one at that.

Are you sure it ends in Season 5? Because I have Season 5 on DVD as well, 100% original Copies.

[onona]

Because I have Season 5 on DVD as well, 100% original Copies.

Season 5 hasn't even finished showing on TV yet. The finale only screens in the US on May 13th.

[ioiiooio]

Okay, so I just spoke to the guy I'm borrowing them from and he says he told me he was going to *check* if he could get season 5 (he's borrowing it from someone else). Which really kinda sucks cos I'm pretty sure thats not how the conversation went down and I thought I was quite clear I wasn't keen if it wasn't the full series, now I have to wait a whole year? Dammit. :(

[Banlam]

Season 5 of Lost is currently airing (read "not finished") and season 6 will apparently be the end of the show. linky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lost_episodes)

PS: The DVD release date for Season 5 is set at 8 December 2009

edit: I did not see there was a 4th page =/, relevant in any case

[brazed]

Meh, wednesday's episode was the typical catching up episode.

[Banlam]

Well Season 5 has now ended. Leaving me slightly more confused than what I was expecting.

Was the nuke supposed to go off? That is, by the nuke blowing off, are tehy changing what has happened, or is it what actually happened originally?

[pArkEr]

If only the creators of Smallville and Prison Break could follow their example. But what will there be to watch after Lost has finished?!

[X-Gamer]

If only the creators of Smallville and Prison Break could follow their example. But what will there be to watch after Lost has finished?!

It's simple, after LOST is finished we can all buy the Blu-Ray Boxsets of LOST and watch it over and over in 1080p!!! (I actually plan on doing this -some day...)

But seriously, the only other shows left, are : Supernatural, Fringe.

I hope they keep the new logo (but i guess its just a one-off thing):

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3601/snapshot20090526171448.jpg

Oh and there's a NEW Prison Break special (DVD Special, although the series is still finished.)

[pArkEr]

I don't think I can do that. The mystery is what keeps the show interesting for me. Maybe a couple of years down the line, when I've forgotten everything. Supernatural sounds interesting though, might pick that up.
And **** NBC (or whatever network) for cancelling Terminator.

[X-Gamer]

Supernatural has really evolved from where it started to where it is now. But its one 'Hell' of a ride!

On the topic of Other shows to watch: ABC started something called "Flash Forward", seems interesting.

[TiNRiB]

I am a happy guy today... Was going through my "forgotten" cd's and I found Supernatural season 1 and the entire Ross Kemp On Gangs cd's. I never even knew I owned them! Oh well, lets see how much I can watch until I pass out.

[Bonezmann]

I don't think I can do that. The mystery is what keeps the show interesting for me. Maybe a couple of years down the line, when I've forgotten everything. Supernatural sounds interesting though, might pick that up.
And **** NBC (or whatever network) for cancelling Terminator.

pArkEr, I recently restarted LOST S1, and it's quite refreshing actually. Now you can put everything together, when what happens(if you've watched at least 2 eps of S5). It all fits more clearly then.

[pArkEr]

I just finished Season 4 (O_O at end), and now I have to wait till Season 5 comes out on DVD. I'll definitely try and start over then, been planning on showing it to a friend anyway.

OffTopic: I've found a new show to watch - Dexter!

[TiNRiB]

I just finished Season 4 (O_O at end), and now I have to wait till Season 5 comes out on DVD. I'll definitely try and start over then, been planning on showing it to a friend anyway.

OffTopic: I've found a new show to watch - Dexter!

You will enjoy Season 5.... The reason we hate lost is why we love it, and season 5 just kills you!

I've been trying to get into Dexter, saw like 2 episodes on MNet Action, is season 1 in stores yet?

[pArkEr]

Yes it is.

Completely off topic, but I just had to get this off my chest:

http://images.movieeye.com/images/media_assets/R7766-14235_preview.jpg

G-Man!

[TiNRiB]

Yes it is.

Completely off topic, but I just had to get this off my chest:


G-Man!

OMG!
I can't believe I never spotted that... lol

[X-Gamer]

Yeah,G-Man!!!!
check out other LOST references in Half-life 2 :
http://forums.tidemedia.co.za/nag/showpost.php?p=205594&postcount=40

[TiNRiB]

pArkEr, I recently restarted LOST S1, and it's quite refreshing actually. Now you can put everything together, when what happens(if you've watched at least 2 eps of S5). It all fits more clearly then.

I bought the season 1 boxset today... and wow... I cant believe how far ahead the writers were thinking. It feels as if I'm watching a totally different show here... Brilliant, just brilliant.

[X-Gamer]

Now imagine if Prison Break, Heroes and other shows which dwindled, were planned this far ahead, Imagine how F*n Brilliant those shows could have Been!!! But Alas, those in charge only see the short-term impact on their Balance sheets.

[Bonezmann]

I'm dying to watch Season5, but my internet connection doesn't like Rapidshare for some reason. Something that still bugs me is: "Who is Jacob?" or should it be "what is Jacob?" (remember spoiler tags if you know)

[pArkEr]

I just finished Season 4, so allow me to hazard a guess: Jacob is that black guy in a suit. You see him in several flashbacks, such as when he's pushing Locke in the wheelchair.

Probably wrong, but no-one tell me!

[X-Gamer]

PARKER:

JUST WATCH SEASON 5 ALREADY!!!!!!
It's been playing on DStv for like 9 weeks already!

Anyway, there's much to learn in Season 5, and when people theorise after watching Season 4 (you) it makes me want to say: thank you come again, just WATCH Season 5!!!You can buy the DVD boxset later!!!

[pArkEr]

Great. Mind telling me when episode 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc. are playing on M-Net again? Don't say The Series Channel, because that's already on episode 11.

Anyway, I'm in luck. My friend recorded the whole season on his PVR. **** yeah.

[TiNRiB]

Great. Mind telling me when episode 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc. are playing on M-Net again? Don't say The Series Channel, because that's already on episode 11.

Anyway, I'm in luck. My friend recorded the whole season on his PVR. **** yeah.

I doubt M-net will see Lost again... They do this with all their series in attempt to convert M-net (are there still any of them?) subscribers to DStv.

[pArkEr]

pArkEr, I recently restarted LOST S1, and it's quite refreshing actually. Now you can put everything together, when what happens(if you've watched at least 2 eps of S5). It all fits more clearly then.

I just watched the first two episodes. Typical Lost brilliance. But can someone tell me who that old lady was? That's IF she was introduced before, not still to be.

[TiNRiB]

Do I believe you are speaking about Farraday's mom, Parker? Think back to Desmond's flashbacks, and his "ability to see the future".

You see her now?

EDIT: The only other old lady I can think of is Rose... One of my most loved characters, even though I'm atheist

[pArkEr]

OMFG.

btw, spoiler tags for other people please.

[X-Gamer]

Anyone watch LOST Untangled?
It's ABC's LOST recap thing, kind of like a comic book style parody, just more Official.
LINK (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=lostuntangled)
Be aware that the latest Recap loads automatically (Season 5 Finale Recap).

[OP-Quinn]

Wow :O

[X-Gamer]

I just watched the episode 515 recap, extremely funny, they also use Dolls!!!
I wonder how far back these Untangled eppisodes go??
If my cap were finished(Iburst throttles to 64k) I'd download ALL of them!!!

[pArkEr]

Just went back and watched Desmond's flashback episode. I thought she looked familiar.
Kudos to Linedelof and co. They take looking ahead to a new meaning.

[X-Gamer]

@parker: Which ep is that? And what are you referring to?

EDIT: Nevermind I see what u referring to.

[brazed]

@parker: Which ep is that? And what are you referring to?

EDIT: Nevermind I see what u referring to.

This isn't IRC.

[Bonezmann]

Sorry if this is a necro, but I just saw S05E04 and this **** is GOLD. Especially since I watched the whole season one recently, now I can laugh when my parents see claire give birth in season one and I KNOW Sawyer is watching from behind the bushes!!!

This is some serious mind****!

[pArkEr]

I'm going to check that episode out again (season 1). If Sawyer is hiding in the bushes, and we can see it, I'm going to eat my cat.

EDIT: Nope, nothing. Thing were getting a bit freaky though, as my cat's name is Candy.

[Bonezmann]

I see that via your avatar :p

If we saw sawyer in the bushes back in Season 1, it would've ruined the story. I cant' believe I'm raping my cap for this show. xD

[pArkEr]

Nah, it would've ****ed our brains. We'd be forever wondering how it would be possible, until WHAM! Time travel.

Just saw the finale now. I was loving where everything was going, and the intro set everything up nicely. But seriously? Reincarnation?

[Inphidel]

PS Not what you think

[pArkEr]

I've been doing some research, and reading extensively on discussion boards.

I always knew there was some connection to Egypt. The statue was confirmed as Taweret, the goddess of fertility. So the Incident is what caused babies on the island to stop being born, as the hydrogen bomb must have destroyed it.

I've been noticing these connections for a while. One that I'm proud to say I've found completely myself: the episode after Ben gets shot. Jack tries to help Roger by cleaning the school. If you look closely at the board it shows some of the hieroglyphs we've been seeing throughout the show, saying Egyptian imagery of gods (or something, can't remember).

There's some Biblical connotations as well, like Jacob. Some are saying the guy at the beginning is Esau, Jacob's brother. He represents evil, while Jacob represents good, as can be seen by the colour of their clothers.

I'm also beginning to think that impostor Locke is the smoke monster. The smoke monster might be helping Esau, which is why it transformed into Alex to tell Ben to listen to Locke. But why? Where is this feud coming from?

So maybe the overall theme of Lost is good vs. Evil?

[Bonezmann]

So maybe the overall theme of Lost is good vs. Evil?

HUGE SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN SEASON 1->

There is more proof to your theory. Remember in the very first season Lock was playing backgammon? He said it was an ancient game and that archeologists found proof/remains of the game in mesopotamia? Then he said it was two sides, one light and the other dark.

Then, when they found the caves. Jack and Kate found two stones, one black and the other white. Representing light and dark.

Also when Claire had her nightmares, she saw lock in one of her dreams, and guess what? His eyes where colored, one white and one black.

I also saw the egyptian hyro's on the temple wall. Maybe there's a white smoke monster somewhere? :p

[pArkEr]

That would rule the world.

There's lots more though. Throughout the series there's always been two sides fighting. Hostiles vs. Dharma, Losties vs. The Others, Ben vs. Charles. Throughout the whole timeline there's been some sort of feud, but the show draws a blurred line over who is good and evil. We still don't know who the "good guys" really are, as everybody are proclaiming to be the "good guys".

But also, this theme would be very inconsistent of the writers, as they've always talked about free will vs. destiny, as symbolized by Jack and Locke. I guess they'll delve deeper into this during season 6.

But wow, this finale was brilliant. Some parts I didn't like, such as Kate and Jack's reasoning, and Juliet's mind-changing, but it completely changed everything for me. Before, I thought Lost was simply about Widmore finding the island, of a power-struggle between him and Ben. This episode shows that everything goes much, much deeper. Ben and Charles almost seem insignificant at the moment.

I really can't understand why some people are saying the writers make everything up as they go along. It's quite evident (to me at least) that they have some grand plan in the works.

[Inphidel]

Only a handful of people know the entire story... the writers of each episode are merely told who has to be killed off, and what key plot events to include. This fact is what leads to so many minor sub plots never being concluded.

[TiNRiB]

Only a handful of people know the entire story... the writers of each episode are merely told who has to be killed off, and what key plot events to include. This fact is what leads to so many minor sub plots never being concluded.

I have to disagree with you... The sub-plots are not yet concluded for a reason.

Re-watching the series has been to me better than watching it the first time (I can now now see how everything fits in). The incomplete sub-plots will probably be revealed, when they need to be.

...well that is unless you can tell me which of these sub-plots either confuse you or are incomplete.

[pArkEr]

I'd personally like to see Walt's story told completely. There's a reason the Others were interested in him, and they haven't explained his powers either. I don't think Michael is dead either.

[Bonezmann]

That would rule the world.

There's lots more though. Throughout the series there's always been two sides fighting. Hostiles vs. Dharma, Losties vs. The Others, Ben vs. Charles. Throughout the whole timeline there's been some sort of feud, but the show draws a blurred line over who is good and evil. We still don't know who the "good guys" really are, as everybody are proclaiming to be the "good guys".


Wasn't there a time when it was Jack's group vs. Lock's group?

[pArkEr]

Well neither of those groups could be said to be good or evil, it was just a difference of belief.

[pArkEr]

Proof that Jacob could be a stand-in for God:

Ben: Do you believe in God, Jack?
Jack: Do you?
Ben: Two days after I found out I had a fatal tumor on my spine, a spinal surgeon fell out of the sky... and if that's not proof of God, I don't know what is.

And we know Jacob's been pulling the strings from behind the scenes all along.

[Bonezmann]

What happened to the old black lady and her husband? Did they die on the boat?

[pArkEr]

I was wondering the same thing throughout season 5. I thought they completely forgot about Rose and Bernard, and the other 50 or so survivors! Don't worry, they reappear in the finale, though where the other survivors are is anyone's guess. I'm guessing most of them died on the boat.

How far are you btw?

[Bonezmann]

Episode 9, if I have it right it was desmond's fault that the plane crashed in the first place.

[X-Gamer]

WOW!!! Anyone been following Comic-Con? The bits of info gettin onto the net are... impressive(?) to say the least!

Charlie made an appearance (the Actor)
A video played, showing that Oceanic Airlines never had a single crash in 30 years (1979-2009)


That's just a few of the things I read, still can't find a video or proper summary of all the things that happened.

[pArkEr]

Woah. How exactly do you follow it, is it video streaming or text updates?

[X-Gamer]

ABC will probably release a Podcast (Audio) and the video on their site.
But for now, all that we get are these Damn Twitter-esque type Blog posts, which I'm not too fond of.

[TiNRiB]

Update ASAP please... Link?
Google is killing me here

[X-Gamer]

Lost @ Comic-Con 2009 (Youtube vid links)
Part1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNjVeEBA_I)
Part2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMN89M9NmK4)
Part3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQCn-xbBlb8)
Part4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-srKdiqz88)

The video segments that played during the panel were removed. ABC might have it on their site later on.

[pArkEr]

Poster for final season:

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/102/1023829/lost-20090911004220892-000.jpg

Locke looks ultra-badass.
IGN (http://tv.ign.com/articles/102/1023829p1.html)
btw, Lost is scheduled to end Wednesday, May 19th. A very sad day for television.

[X-Gamer]

I'm still trying to find a hi-res render of that poster. Hope ABC releases one on their site.

And yeah, a sad day for television.

[Bonezmann]

What's Shannon and Boon doing on the poster? Aren't they supposed to be dead? And is that Hannah Lucia too? wtf is going on?

[Inphidel]

What's Shannon and Boon doing on the poster? Aren't they supposed to be dead? And is that Hannah Lucia too? wtf is going on?

You do know that this is Lost we're talking about, right? Since when have the writers let logic get in their way?

[pArkEr]

Either the bomb managed to reset everything so that Lost never happened, or they've got something else planned.
My theory: the losties are indeed successful in negating the creation of the hatch, and so stopping Desmond from not pressing the button etc.
However, as Eloise said, the universe has a way of course-correcting itself, and so the plane will crash by some other means.
It doesn't explain the whole 2007 Jacob story though.

[X-Gamer]

So judging from previous posts, looks like most have caught up to the latest in Lost.

In the pilot episode of Flash Forward, there's a banner advert for Oceanic Airlines, with the Slogan:
"PERFECT SAFETY RECORD". Oh and BTW that was also mentioned in one of the videos at Comic-Con '09.

So yes, it's confirmed that the timeline has been "Reset".

Inphidel, Lost is Lost, and by that I mean that the writers IMO havn't made any factual or
logical errors, the show is unique in its execution and style.

Parker, care to elaborate on "whole 2007 Jacob story" ?

[pArkEr]

Can we agree on not needing spoiler tags anymore? I know Bonzeman is a bit behind, but I'll give him a heads up.
I'm talking bout Jacob's nemesis taking Locke's form and killing Jacob. What happens afterwards?
I don't think the timeline has been reset however. Like Daniel said, whatever happened, happened. Whatever we see happening is in fact the events that lead to the creation of the hatch. I say this because:

1. Richard says that he saw everyone die in 1974. He probably saw the explosion of the A-bomb and assumed they were dead. But we know the bomb detonated in the original timeline.

2. The statue. That is the statue of Taweret, the god of fertility. We know something stopped babies from being born on the island. And we know via statue was destroyed. See where I'm going with this?

3. The incident. Everything happens as they're supposed to. Chang breaks his hand. Radzinsky survives. The energy is released.

4. The episode is called "The Incident".

Therefore I postulate that nothing has been reset, but everything happened as they were supposed to. In depth **** hey ;)

[Bonezmann]

I've just read every damn spoiler on purpose :D

The whole time thing is mind****, and there has been a discussion about this on the forum. You CAN NOT change the past. And hell, if someone says Jack Sheppard can, then I suggest Chuck Norris bow down to Jack.

Come on spoil some more, the smoke monster. What is it? (I'm waiting in anticipation)

[pArkEr]

You shouldn't have done that Bonze :P

I think the smoke monster is Jacob's nemesis. He can obviously assume any form that he wishes, but only if the body isn't buried. That's why it was able to become Yemi and Christian. We know the monster guards the temple, but it's also some sort of judge, and makes people pay for their past injustices.

Think back to when Eko was killed. Yemi was telling him to repent, but Eko refused. Then he said that he was not Yemi, and asked who he was. Soon after he was killed by the monster. Earlier in the season we also saw the monster "scan" Eko.

I believe the monster is central to what Lost is all about, and will be the main focus for the final season.

btw, on the poster, Walt is missing. That's got to mean something.

[Bonezmann]

btw, on the poster, Walt is missing. That's got to mean something.

Exactly, why didn't Walt have to return to the island? So you're saying the smoke monster is a concious living thing? It sounds more like a machine. I really need to catch up...

There's still so many unanswered questions about Walt. What did they do to him when they kidnapped him? and why does everything 'die' around him? like that bird in Aus?

[X-Gamer]

I agree with you on that, Parker. What happened, happened.

BUT, I think it would be more appropriate to start calling it a "timecurve". Since its not linear anymore. We are just seeing the natural progression of things.

In that respect, time has been "Reset", as the rest of the world will be on the "timeline" and "The Lost" will be on the "timecurve".




Most people think time is like a river that flows swift and sure in one direction.
But I have seen the face of time, and I can tell you: they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm. You may wonder who I am or why I say this. Sit down and I will tell you a tale like none you have ever heard.

[Bonezmann]

I'd bet my Vampire teeth that "The Lost" will cause their own plane to fall...

[pArkEr]

Like Eloise said, the universe has a way of course-correcting itself.
As for the monster... I may be on the right track, or I might be miles off. But I'm definitely not spot-on ;) I think it all comes down to Jacob vs his nemesis. The characters are merely pawns in one huge, never-ending war. Good vs evil, God vs the Devil. I've elaborated on this earlier.

[Bonezmann]

Didn't Ben say that the smoke monster is the Island's "Defence system"? And what about the time it 'scanned' John, why didn't it kill him?

[pArkEr]

Because it needs John. You'll have to watch the season finish "brother". Either that or John is innocent and has nothing to repent for. The guy has suffered enough hardship as it is.

[TiNRiB]

I just jizzed when I saw that poster!

Amazing what 3 weeks without internet does to you!
And Parker, I love your opinions on the story... I almost agree with you 100%... I just can't get my head around Jacob's nemesis!
Oh well, there goes tomorrow, I'm watching Season 5 again!

[pArkEr]

I'm a freak, almost finished my second viewing! Besides Supernatural, there's nothing else to watch, so Lost keeps me busy. You guys were right as well, the second watch is much better, I recommend that everybody re-watch the whole series.
One question: do you guys think that Ben was the "good guy" all along, and knows much more than he is putting on? Also, what is it that "lies beneath the statue"?

[TiNRiB]

What lies in the shadow of the statue...

Richard replies, "Ille qui nos omnes servabit" -- "He who will save/protect us all."

Googled it a while ago, you should get some more info about what it means there.

EDIT: In my opinion I believe he is referring to either Lock2 AKA Nemesis or Jacob. I'm leaning more toward Jacob as he is the one who requested help from the new survivors.

EDIT2: I was really disappointed that Richard was not a more important character... I always believed he was the mastermind, yet just lurking in the background... Kind of monitoring what these idiots were doing. Like a kid with an ant farm and magnifying glass AKA God! :P

[pArkEr]

I think Richard came on the Black Rock all those years ago. Still have no idea how it ended up in the middle of the island though.

As for what lies beneath the statue: I'm hoping it's Locke. The real one. He might be dead but I'm praying that they'll find a way to bring him back.

[Bonezmann]

I watched Eps 10 and 11 last night. The whole "Ben won't remember Sayid because the other heal him" was a bit meh, I was expecting a more epic explanation for him not remembering Sayid...

[X-Gamer]

Ah but, "Dead is Dead". And "What Happened, Happened".

It's sad, but hey, he'll be alive again, after The Reset.

[pArkEr]

I'm still not sold on The Reset though. It seems like a cheap way to finish off the show, and imagine getting all those actors back. So far only Charlie and Boone are confirmed to make appearances, and those might be in flashbacks. Dominic Monaghan is signed on to Flash Forward anyway.

And we don't even know if that flash at the end was the bomb, it could have been another time jump. I think the plane will crash another way and the guys will end up in the present day (2007).

Yeah, that Sayid bit wasn't well thought out. Not only that, howcome Richard remembers none of the lost? He's certainly met Jack, Sayid and Locke before. Unless he's pretending, so as to not mess with the timeline.

*shrugs*

[pArkEr]

IZE DONE IT!!!


What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in [the Feb. 7 episode], one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html
Jacob anyone?

[X-Gamer]

What did you do?

[pArkEr]

I used my incredible mouse-clicking skills and found teh truth.
Think about the two stones they found as well.

[Bonezmann]

The stones were too 'prominent' not to be important. I think it's jack and Kate :p

[pArkEr]

Well in the season 5 finale, Jacob's wearing a white robe and the other guy black. Black and white seem to be important in the overall theme of the show.

[vii]

I'm rewatching this over the next week to corroborate my theories, then I'll be able to comment. :D

<3 lost

[Bonezmann]

Saw eps 12-14 today, interesting. Poor Ben, it's not been his week...

[vii]

I just noticed something... Episode 216, 34:45 minutes into the episode... There's a grammar mistake in the subs... Anyone else notice this?

[vii]

I just finished the episode where Charlie dies. The saddest thing ever. I'm hoping that Jack's plan in the end of season5 worked... just so charlie can come back to life. I'm sad now...

[Garson007]

Tbh, I think this show is going to end with everyone dying, and all those who traveled to the past won't come back to the future. Just like Lock isn't going to become alive again. This show has the guts to do what few other shows do, kill off characters and to create an epic tragedy.

[brazed]

On
a
side
note:
Next person who thinks we want to hear your thoughts on every single episode gets an infraction.We don't need running commentary as you watch the series. But if you really feel the need, do it with more than one or two sentences

[sualk]

Waiting patiently for payday so I can finally get my hands on LOST season 5 on DVD.This is my favourite show hands down.

I enjoyed the way the show started off with Season 1-3 and then I got a bit confused with Season 4 but came on track again.

I missed Season 5 completely on TV so that's why I'm excited to get this in my hands.

From what I found out on Wikipedia,LOST season 6 is going back to it's roots,with no flashbacks or flashforwards.