Telkom Do Gaming VIP area @ rAge

[Guardien]

Telkom and AGASA will be hosting three competitive Do Gaming League events at rAge (CoD4, CSS and Battlefield 2). These competitions will take place in a completely separate area to the NAG LAN - the Telkom Do Gaming VIP area is located underneath The Dome in the old casino area. Tickets for access to this area are only available through qualification in the Do Gaming League. The Telkom Do Gaming VIP area will accommodate 500 gamers, and they will be networked to the NAG LAN meaning that in total there will be 2,300 gamers playing on the same network at rAge this year.

There will three official Telkom Do Gaming competitions in the VIP area:

?Call of Duty 4 ? top 36 teams
?Counter Strike Source ? 12 teams
?Battlefield 2 ? 10 teams

These teams will all receive Telkom Do Gaming VIP tickets to rAge. The ranking of the teams will be decided from the third leg of the Do Gaming League. In the case of CoD4, there will be a playoff at the end of the leg and the top 36 teams thereafter will receive their VIP tickets. Basically all teams in the Premier league and 1st Division will qualify, 2nd division teams will need battle it out for the top 10 spots to qualify, and the top 2 from the 3rd division will qualify. If teams do not make the top 36/12/10 teams, they will need to buy NAG LAN tickets.

For more details on this event go here (http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/do_gaming_announces_rage_09_plans.htm).

[PAPABEAR]

IM entering the COD 4 definitely

Nice find man ;)

[ShadowOrphan]

Not a find. Not a man. It’s a public announcement from rAge

From the profile you should see:

"Occupation :Managing Editor - SACM"

[Ljj]

Telkom and AGASA will be hosting three competitive Do Gaming League events at rAge (CoD4, CSS and Battlefield 2). These competitions will take place in a completely separate area to the NAG LAN - the Telkom Do Gaming VIP area is located underneath The Dome in the old casino area. Tickets for access to this area are only available through qualification in the Do Gaming League. The Telkom Do Gaming VIP area will accommodate 500 gamers, and they will be networked to the NAG LAN meaning that in total there will be 2,300 gamers playing on the same network at rAge this year.

There will three official Telkom Do Gaming competitions in the VIP area:

?Call of Duty 4 ? top 36 teams
?Counter Strike Source ? 12 teams
?Battlefield 2 ? 10 teams

These teams will all receive Telkom Do Gaming VIP tickets to rAge. The ranking of the teams will be decided from the third leg of the Do Gaming League. In the case of CoD4, there will be a playoff at the end of the leg and the top 36 teams thereafter will receive their VIP tickets. Basically all teams in the Premier league and 1st Division will qualify, 2nd division teams will need battle it out for the top 10 spots to qualify, and the top 2 from the 3rd division will qualify. If teams do not make the top 36/12/10 teams, they will need to buy NAG LAN tickets.

For more details on this event go here (http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/do_gaming_announces_rage_09_plans.htm).
Cant they make a warcraft 3 (Dota) comp? can play all that games but better in dota strategy..i was to late 4 the R250 tickets.me and few of my friends can play dota quite good, and we need to be at rage badly... cant they make a plan to make that a comp aswell?

[ShadowOrphan]

"cant they make a plan to make that a comp aswell?"

No they can’t. Space is a problem for them too. We are looking at doing DOTA in the LAN which means you need a ticket.

[WTF]

I find that utter bs! Firstly the top 36 teams for cod4!? If they wanted space they should reduce that, 36 teams is a hell of a lot. Why couldn't they make top 26 teams for cod 4 and top 10 teams for DotA. Last year Do Gaming hosted a DotA comp and this year they just didn't seem to give a crap?

Plus the fact that last year WITH the DotA comp, there was still a tons of space around that area.

Why had DotA been excluded this year? Can someone please give me a proper explanation?

I was told it's because DotA players aren't doing their part!?! How are the teams meant to do their part if the organizer don't do theirs? Seems to me that the organizers of this comp just don't give a crap about DotA and there is no excuse to it. Then they come with stories that it's AGASA who organizes the DotA comps... Ermm....??

I forgot to add, the fact that rAge(NAG LAN) is the biggest LAN event of the year and they can't even host a DotA comp, while the small lans such as Mayhem and MPLD even host DotA comps... Oh but AGASA might have a DotA comp at the NAG LAN this year, with all the tickets being sold out in 2 days, how do they expect teams to actually attend? I doubt any teams for DotA have gotten tickets. Only some individual players have got tickets but I doubt all 5 players per a team each were able to get hold of a rAge ticket.

But why were the rAge tickets sold out so fast? Because Do Gaming bought 500 tickets for all the first person shooter games but not DotA. Now some of the Cod4, CSS, and BF2 players already bought tickets for rAge and once they qualify for the free VIP tickets, they are going to sell the tickets they bought for double or tripple the price. So the DotA players who couldn't buy tickets now have to buy them for tripple the cost price. Thanks.

[ShadowOrphan]

“Why had DotA been excluded this year? Can someone please give me a proper explanation?”

I have to assume that are not pleased. With aspects to AGASA and Telkom and the games that they choose to host, that is up to them to decide. The world is not always without complications, sometimes compromise is a reality. Whatever the reasons for AGASA not supporting DOTA in the VIP area, that is something you need to take up with them. They have a website, forums and contact details. That question will not be resolved here.

“I forgot to add, the fact that rAge(NAG LAN) is the biggest LAN event of the year and they can't even host a DotA comp, while the small lans such as Mayhem and MPLD even host DotA comps...”

You might have noticed that we are working on hosting a comp in the LAN area. Thus the DOTA community has not been forgotten, they were only left out of the VIP area.

“But why were the rAge tickets sold out so fast? Because Do Gaming bought 500 tickets for all the first person shooter games but not DotA.”

The 500 tickets that you refer to are separate from the 1800 for the rAge LAN. Last year 300 of the 1800 tickets for the LAN was for Telkom. Thus the LAN increased by 300 and Telkom now have their own tickets. Why did the tickets sell out in 3 days? Because a lot of people want to go, and although 1800 tickets were available the demand was higher.

“Now some of the Cod4, CSS, and BF2 players already bought tickets for rAge and once they qualify for the free VIP tickets, they are going to sell the tickets they bought for double or tripple the price. So the DotA players who couldn't buy tickets now have to buy them for tripple the cost price.”

You might have noticed that we do not take kindly to people trying to resell tickets at higher prices. Stating that you have to buy them at higher prices is incorrect. Should you wish to pay more then that is your choice, and we certainly do not agree with the practice.


Please keep in mind UT, Quake, Racing, Strategy and a whole host of games are not included in specific competitions. Loving a specific game drives people like Nictron to go through the trouble of making sure that they are not forgotten. They make do with what they are given and they certainly seem to enjoy themselves every year. Complaining about the ticket sales and the games that received priority is not a very productive way to ensure that in future you are not forgotten. People seem to loose sight of the fact that online leagues and comps require a lot of effort from people that do not always receive monetary compensation. The online DOTA league has been plagued with inconsistent showing of teams and member replacement being way too common. So maybe the risk factor involved with including DOTA was just to high weighed against the Telkom sponsorship.

Maybe this extract from Bravado reflects the current sentiment:

“The Bravado (bvd) DotA team have decided to call the team off and reform under a new name, Just Juking, says Marc “Saidin” Bowes, the owner and captain of the previous team. Just Juking (JJ) is a play on the phrase “Just Joking”, which signals the reformed team's intentions for the scene.

“We decided that as bvd we were too inactive, and every match (even friendlies) reflects on the organisation. With the competitive scene currently as it is, as well, we decided to take a load off and just play for the fun of it,” Bowes says.”

[WTF]

Firstly, I don't think it is about AGASA, it's about Do Gaming, they're basically organizing the competitions and they left DotA. Now you say there might be a DotA comp in the open LAN, with a whole lot of mix teams? Almost no team has rAge tickets for their actual "full" clan. But don't get me wrong, a mix team DotA comp is still better than nothing.

To do with the rAge tickets, there are even more tickets this year sure. But the CSS, Cod4 and BF2 player did stil buy tickets in case they don't make the qualifiers and some of them will. So lets say 200 of the 500 that will probably win tickets, already bought tickets. Now that's another 200 tickets which other are going to have to pay extra for. I know people aren't allowed to sell tickets for more than the cost price + shipping costs, but be realistic. They do it anyway, because they get away with it. This isn't important to what I'm trying to get at though. This is just what I am assuming, not fact.

As to do with the games, UT, Quake and Racing etc, are games which are dying out. DotA is not. Go play counter-strike at 3am and you'll find hardly any players, then go try play dota at basically any time, and you'll find people playing even at 5am. So DotA is still very alive.
Just because DotA teams change players a lot and break up and reform often, doesn't mean that there aren't still entering the tourneys. It doesn't matter if the team changes, as long as there are still teams entering.
Have you noticed that eGamer hosts a DotA tourney, where clans play weekly, and that is working out very well. There are tons of DotA players who vote for the team they would like to see play, as well as the teams participating every week. There is never a week canceled due to the team not being able to play etc.

As for Bravado, that's just one team. They have been having a hard time for quite some while, losing some of their clannies, and with some of their players going inactive. But keep in mind their players are going inactive, but they have still been a clan for 2 years before their players went inactive.
Bravado speaks of how the competitive scene is bad, and that could be because of the organizers and lack of tourneys? How is excluding DotA from rAge supposed to improve competitive DotA play in SA? It just made it 10x worse imo. More people are going to lose interest in DotA if they see that DotA is going nowhere and isn't taken seriously.

[ShadowOrphan]

“Firstly, I don't think it is about AGASA, it's about Do Gaming, they're basically organizing the competitions and they left DotA.”

Well yes and no. AGASA is doing it on behalf of Do Gaming. But that is not exactly the point. It has been left out and that is the issue. DOTA is not forgotten since we are working on it, with which I assume you agree.

I have never been a fan of CS. Sure there are DOTA games. Not always fun to play though. People quitting when they start to loose or don’t get the heroes they want etc etc. So yes we can argue the point whether it is the bestest game ever or you could take into consideration my earlier response:

“Whatever the reasons for AGASA not supporting DOTA in the VIP area, that is something you need to take up with them. They have a website, forums and contact details. That question will not be resolved here”

So here are a few links to help you post your requests were it could make a difference.

http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/vip_section_at_rage.htm

http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/do_gaming_announces_rage_09_plans.htm

http://gaming.do.co.za/contacts

Whether or not other games have become less popular, does not negate the fact that there are still people who would have enjoyed playing it. Maybe even enough for a decent comp.

“Have you noticed that eGamer hosts a DotA tourney, where clans play weekly, and that is working out very well.”

In my books that just means that you have a lot of opportunities already to play DOTA.

I mentioned Bravado to indicate that all is not well. Who is at fault, opinions might differ.

I will hopefully be in a position shortly to make a posting regarding the DOTA comp.

[ShadowOrphan]

"I will hopefully be in a position shortly to make a posting regarding the DOTA comp. " This was with reference to the Open LAN. Hopefully we can stop the essays:)

[JP_]

I find that utter bs! Firstly the top 36 teams for cod4!? If they wanted space they should reduce that, 36 teams is a hell of a lot. Why couldn't they make top 26 teams for cod 4 and top 10 teams for DotA. Last year Do Gaming hosted a DotA comp and this year they just didn't seem to give a crap?


Just btw that figure of 36 teams is already cut down. There are currently 55 teams in the COD4 league across 4 divisions...

[WTF]

"Just btw that figure of 36 teams is already cut down. There are currently 55 teams in the COD4 league across 4 divisions..."

Well there might be 55 COD4 teams, and they might be 55 DotA teams, but it's mainly the PTA/JHB etc clans which will attend. A lot of the teams are in Cape Town as well, and might not be able to even attend rAge tho. A lot of gamers are also quite young so they aren't allowed to travel far distances etc.

36 Teams is still a lot. I think just about any players could make the 36th best team. So basically just because they play the game they get to go to rAge for free etc. If they limit that number to say 22 teams, there will be less Cod4 teams which are more skilled. I don't know about you but I personally would prefer less and better teams. Rather than playing against teams which are quite bad and they get thrashed making the game boring and a waste of time. But that's just me.

[LEONIIDAS]

could anyone here maybe pls sell me three tickets
ill pay good pm me
we have an excelent team butt we had to work on weekend
that sucks badly, and that was the cause of our NOT GETTING THAT DAMN TICKET. pls guys
sms me on 0828264748 TY

[LEONIIDAS]

my team goez crazy for cod4 we darn good if any tickets go let us know please

[theDamaged]

This is such sweet news. I knew about the comps (because I have been playing in AGASA BF2 since leg 1) but I didn't now about the VIP area. This also mean I won't have to scrounge around for a ticket (I go away for one weekend and they all get sold out!)


Is it too soon to ask about how we will be collecting these tickets? There are only 10 teams in Leg 3 for BF2 to it is safe to assume we will all be getting tickets.

What about clan's not based in joburg? Or will we only collect these at the door?

[Guardien]

Is it too soon to ask about how we will be collecting these tickets? There are only 10 teams in Leg 3 for BF2 to it is safe to assume we will all be getting tickets.

What about clan's not based in joburg? Or will we only collect these at the door?

We havent been given much more detail on how you will go about securing your place in the VIP area other than what is on their website (http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/do_gaming_announces_rage_09_plans.htm) at this point. Perhaps you should post your question there to get a response - as far as we are aware its based on an online league that is being managed by AGASA and Telkom, so essentially the tickets will be issued/allocated by them and not anyone from NAG or rAge.

[theDamaged]

What are you crazy?! You mean I have to be pro-active and not get some else to do the work for me!

I have been speaking to some tournament MODs but they don't know either, it ain't serious. Last year we also got freebies, I just went and collected them for the whole clan but they were just regular tickets and not the special shiny VIP ones. I am assuming they will have a bit more control over these ones.

Thanks anyway

[WTF]

It will most likely be the same as last year, where you need to give your name and surname of some people in your team who will pick up the tickets etc. Then meet one of the AGASA/Do gaming people to get the tickets by showing them your ID and signing some form or something. That's how I remember it last year.

[Pulse]

It will most likely be the same as last year, where you need to give your name and surname of some people in your team who will pick up the tickets etc. Then meet one of the AGASA/Do gaming people to get the tickets by showing them your ID and signing some form or something. That's how I remember it last year.

Yip thats how it was last year, this year i suspect the same thing will happen.

[LEONIIDAS]

can my team still get these tickets that are given away.
cause we practiced allot of cod4 for lan, and now the lan is here
and we where one hour to late for the tickets.
We had to work. pls sms me someone please 0828264748

[Pulse]

can my team still get these tickets that are given away.
cause we practiced allot of cod4 for lan, and now the lan is here
and we where one hour to late for the tickets.
We had to work. pls sms me someone please 0828264748

If you did not notice or were to stupid and lazy to actually read they dont know anything more than what they posted on the first page, if you read 4 posts above your post, you will notice that Gardien gave you a link and at that link you can send them a message for more information.

[ShadowOrphan]

In summary:


[B]?Whatever the reasons for AGASA not supporting DOTA in the VIP area, that is something you need to take up with them. They have a website, forums and contact details. That question will not be resolved here?

So here are a few links to help you post your requests were it could make a difference.

http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/vip_section_at_rage.htm

http://gaming.do.co.za/articles/localnews/do_gaming_announces_rage_09_plans.htm

http://gaming.do.co.za/contacts

[Bioplus]

Hi guys how would a clan enter these comps? (the ones that qualify u 4 free tickets). And Does any1 here have tickets 4 sale i am in jozi so no shipping costs i will pick up. bioplus28@gmail.com

[Reforged]

For the free tickets read from first page. To buy tickets, well... good luck with that.