Is it survival?

[Garson007]

If there was a situation where you had not other choice to survive, would you eat the dead?

[Azimuth]

Absolutely.

In fact, why wait? Babies are the new pork.

*licks chops*

[Q-Man]

Rofl ^ made of win.

But yes, my answer is yes. And as I mentioned before, it will always be yes, unless the dead is moving towards me. In which case I'll take the green herb thx.

Then reload.

[Miktar]

Beyond a doubt. I have no qualms about eating a dead person, if it means I get to survive. I would even eat someone's dead mother or father, if they were around, if it were my only option to survive.

[Garson007]

Even your own dead lover?

[Razor]

Your lover is dead... I think they would have wanted you to eat them in order to live on

[Miktar]

Even my own dead lover, husband, child.

[Q-Man]

I eat out my dead lover all the ti- oh wait. *cough* ummmm. Ya.

[wir]

Absolutely.

In fact, why wait? Babies are the new pork.

*licks chops*

I eat out my dead lover all the ti- oh wait. *cough* ummmm. Ya.
PURE WIN!!!!
Bwuahaha, n1!

Yeah I'd do it, there are some people I'd eat even if they weren't dead....
Anyone seen all the Hannibal movies?

[ironwolf]

hmmm this is tough. I think I wud but it wud take a lot of self convincing.

[ShadowMaster]

This already happend in the past. People on plane (silver plane nigh impossible to see on snow) crashed on the alps or some other mountians. Some people died but I think most survived.

The people still had a working radio or atleast working enough for them to hear the rescuers calling the search off after a few days.

Later on they where forced to eat the dead to stay alive, the had a docter to do the cutting work(I would die if I did it).

They all made a pact that they would eat the dead and that the other people should eat them if they die.

I think they were eventually rescued when one of them went and informed the authorities.



As for the question:
I would do it after much debating in myself.

[brazed]

Depends on the taste.

[Chevron]

Firstly they'd have to be cooked. Then I'd use the steers spice I keep in my wallet.

[Repline]

This is difficult, but each time i c my wife's face in front of me. So even for own survival I just do not think I would be able to stomache it. My answer is NO.

[Gambit]

I said no, just becuase in my current mindset and never having being in such a situation I cannot imagine eating human flesh, but who knows how you mindset changes when you are literally dying from hunger. But as I said I cannot just say yes, becuase the thought of it is revolting to me.

[wisp]

Beyond a doubt. I have no qualms about eating a dead person, if it means I get to survive. I would even eat someone's dead mother or father, if they were around, if it were my only option to survive.


Death or eat Dead flesh-no brainer . I would rather die than eat the flesh of any dead creature especially another human being,i will die a vegan rather than go against all that i believe in.

[Miktar]

You're a vegan?

[wisp]

You're a vegan?

Have been so for 3 years now , live on spinach and green beans , but thank goodness for chips . Love irish mixed grill, mash potatoes,boiled potatoes,chips and baked potatoes :)

But jokes aside i could never again eat flesh even if it meant my death.

[Garson007]

Although it is tempting, I would like to avoid a debate over vegetarianism. There might be a link between being a vegetarian and being cannibalistic for survival; the one is found in rich pockets while the other is found on a wasteland.

[wisp]

Although it is tempting, I would like to avoid a debate over vegetarianism. There might be a link between being a vegetarian and being cannibalistic for survival; the one is found in rich pockets while the other is found on a wasteland.


Are you say that you have to rich to be a vegan,boy are you so wrong, i have a deep respect for all living creatures so much so that i would rather die than eat them.Your statement is a gross generalistation.It is a life style choice that anyone can make rich or poor.

I have answered your question based on my believes and i have no right to judge you for yours so please do not make such sweeping statements regarding mine.:(

If you want to eat meat its your choice and i respect that, please respect mine not to.

[Miktar]

The problem with vegans (not vegetarians, there is a difference) is that it is essentially a hypocritical stance.

Vegans, for example, very rarely follow through on their 'do no harm to animals' ethos - either by ignorantly still eating jello or by not declining various clothing or textile products that come as a result of animal byproducts.

I have no issues with vegans or vegetarians, but I also don't believe in half-measures - and I have yet to meet a single vegan who wasn't a hypocrite, albeit unknowingly for the most part.

[Miktar]

Have been so for 3 years now , live on spinach and green beans , but thank goodness for chips . Love irish mixed grill, mash potatoes,boiled potatoes,chips and baked potatoes :)

But jokes aside i could never again eat flesh even if it meant my death.

Are you a Vegan, or a Vegetarian, is what I should have asked.

[Garson007]

I wasn't meaning it like that, and yes I might have been tactless. My point was that you have to ability to nutrition yourself with plants, due to your current well-off situation (well-off meaning you can nutrition yourself, rich pockets was a wrong term), for your political/religious/etc beliefs. However, when it all comes down to you -> survival -> dead corps, the last thing on your mind will be what you were when you had the ability to be what you are now. When push comes to shove, will you still die from hunger than eat your neighbour's body?

[PloPshoP]

Who's got the BBQ sauce?

[R4mzy]

If there was still a chance that I might get out of my situation and not all looked hopeless, I'd eat a dead person.
However, if my situation looked hopeless and eating a dead guy would just delay my inevitable death (ie. I'll die soon anyway), I'd rather just jump off a cliff or something.

[Jedi]

There was a movie about the that, it was called Alive, it was about the Argentinean Rugby Team.

As for whether or not I'd eat the dead, I don't know. I'd like to think that I would be able to do that (The will to survive and all that), It's actually a mind **** of note if you think about it, to sit there looking at the body of the person you once loved, considered a friend or even for that matter knew, and knowing the only chance you have of surviving is to eat the raw flesh of that person. I'd probably die of hunger trying to find my way out of that situation.

[wisp]

Are you a Vegan, or a Vegetarian, is what I should have asked.

I am a Vegetarian-very few ppl know the differance that is why i use the short term,i dont eat flesh or wear leather (i know about leather uppers on shoes so i wear takkies and my belt is canvas) but will eat jello,and drink milk.i know that i lot a ppl get holier than though about it , my wife eats meat i will even cook it for her but plse dont ask me eat it it makes me want to up chuck :)

[wisp]

I wasn't meaning it like that, and yes I might have been tactless. My point was that you have to ability to nutrition yourself with plants, due to your current well-off situation (well-off meaning you can nutrition yourself, rich pockets was a wrong term), for your political/religious/etc beliefs. However, when it all comes down to you -> survival -> dead corps, the last thing on your mind will be what you were when you had the ability to be what you are now. When push comes to shove, will you still die from hunger than eat your neighbour's body?


Yes i am willing to die for what i believe in , death does not scare me .

[Miktar]

I find it odd that a vegetarian would eat jello.

[GeometriX]

Me to, actually. My sister is an all-out kinda veggie, and goes the whole hog (:P). She doesn't eat anything with gelatin (even marshmallows!), wear any leather, and even avoids certain wines (some fish process thing used when making wine). She's also a staunch anti-killing-things-for-fur/leather/whatever kinda person.

While all that seems very silly to me (too much effort, in my very humble opinion), I agree that there's no point in only half-doing something: if you're going to do anything - do it completely, or you're just missing the point.

That said, the whole veggie/vegan thing only really seems to mean something to people if there's that official classification. Which also seems silly. My general idea is to avoid those classifications altogether, so just say like "I don't eat meat because the idea of chewing on dead blood, fat and sinew grosses me out", which makes complete sense.

There's a deep meaning somewhere in the above paragraphs, if you find it, lemme know.

Oh, and just for the record - I'd totally eat the dead if it meant I'd survive. Heck, I'd probably eat the living if it came down to it. But it'd be way gross, and I wouldn't exactly be ecstatic about it.

[wisp]

The problem with vegans (not vegetarians, there is a difference) is that it is essentially a hypocritical stance.

Vegans, for example, very rarely follow through on their 'do no harm to animals' ethos - either by ignorantly still eating jello or by not declining various clothing or textile products that come as a result of animal byproducts.

I have no issues with vegans or vegetarians, but I also don't believe in half-measures - and I have yet to meet a single vegan who wasn't a hypocrite, albeit unknowingly for the most part.


I have never really given Jelly much thought as i haven't eaten any for many years now so it is of no importance to me as i have never read all the ingrediance,if there is animal fat or bone in then of course i wont eat but , but i have honestly never given it any thought to that product. Last time i eat that was when i had my tonsils about many many years ago.:)

As for Vegan being hypocrits even unknowingly i cannot comment on that, but my do no harm to animals ethos i personnally give a lot of my time to nature conservation and spend countless weekends removing illegal traps and helping distressed animals.

I am not judging you or anyone else for your believes but it seems the moment that anyone answers in the opposite direction to the norm it is questioned,i believe in live and let live irrespective of the other persons eating habits , sexual orintation , religion or financial postion.

[wisp]

That said, the whole veggie/vegan thing only really seems to mean something to people if there's that official classification. Which also seems silly. My general idea is to avoid those classifications altogether, so just say like "I don't eat meat because the idea of chewing on dead blood, fat and sinew grosses me out", which makes complete sense.



ok thats sounds fine :) and so true

[Miktar]

Nobody is questioning your stance on this, wisp. I think the discussion has been quite genial so far, so you really have no reason to get defensive about it.

I never said vegans are hypocrites, just that they often end up being hypocrites (in my experience) because they don't consider what they eat or do with that much depth, hence lacking a proper follow-through on their beliefs.

Trust me, I know how it feels to have your stance on things questioned, and I doubt anyone here on these forums is going to give you any grief about it.

Jello, gelatin, is made from ground-up hooves, generally horse, cow and pig hooves.

[Miktar]

@GeometriX - the classification exists only for the sake of keeping dialogue going without getting bogged down in explaining what you mean every single time someone brings the topic up.

Can you imagine having a conversation about sex and sexuality, without ever once using the male and female classifications?

Vegan / Vegetarian are lingual constructs, helpful in avoiding ambiguity - but of course, that only works if everyone is on the same page in terms of what those terms mean.

[wisp]

Nobody is questioning your stance on this, wisp. I think the discussion has been quite genial so far, so you really have no reason to get defensive about it.

I never said vegans are hypocrites, just that they often end up being hypocrites (in my experience) because they don't consider what they eat or do with that much depth, hence lacking a proper follow-through on their beliefs.

Trust me, I know how it feels to have your stance on things questioned, and I doubt anyone here on these forums is going to give you any grief about it.

Jello, gelatin, is made from ground-up hooves, generally horse, cow and pig hooves.

i am really not getting defensive, sorry if i gave that impression.And i think you maybe very right concerning the second paragraph.

And thanks for what jello is , will never eat jelly again honestly had no idea ...sies man thats gross just like eating your neighbour.....ok maybe you would but could you eat your pet , imagine killing a cat or dog to eat it , look at that face of your pet could you really imagine eating it no matter how hungry you get,not many ppl could could do that. If your pet was with you in the plane crash could you honestly say that you would eat it.

Again apologies if u thought i was getting defensive

[wisp]

COULD YOU EAT ME

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7436/122495aq9.jpg

[Miktar]

I already have. Cat meat isn't really that appealing.

As for the pet reference: consider this - if you were in a plane crash, and you had your dog or cat with you, they certainly would not hesitate to eat you if you were dead and they were starving. :)

[Chevron]

@wisp Do you have any pets?
If yes do you make sure they are vegetarian as well?

[wisp]

@wisp Do you have any pets?
If yes do you make sure they are vegetarian as well?


I have pets , 2 dogs and they are definatly not Vegans,like i said i do not force my beliefs on anyone or any thing. in fact that was a really dumb question :(

@ miktar, yes i know that they would eat me and i am at peace with that , it is the nature of the beast to eat to survive but we are above that we can moralise the issue and make a choice not to eat ,they cannot . :)

I believe they say we taste like chicken anyway :)

[Miktar]

we are above that we can moralise the issue and make a choice not to eat ,they cannot .

Okay, I have to give you 10 points there.

[wisp]

Okay, I have to give you 10 points there.
Kewl and thank you for a interesting debate i learnt something today...dont eat gelatin ever...and that Miktar ate Cat meat :)L. you were in the East I presume

[Miktar]

No, the cat meat thing was Moroccan, believe it or not. They don't really eat cats in the east, only a specific breed of dog bred to be fed to people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

[wisp]

No, the cat meat thing was Moroccan, believe it or not. They don't really eat cats in the east, only a specific breed of dog bred to be fed to people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

mental note keep away from morrocco, and as for dog meat disgusting . I wonder sometimes if we are being watched by a alien species what they would think of us as a planet -savages or enlightened.I'll go with amusement which is in the middle:)

[Miktar]

PLZ HELP PLANET CRAZY SEND GSV!

But seriously - they'd probably wonder why we fuss so much over things.

[Nimue]

(i voted: don't know) I might eat someone, depending on the stage of decomposition the body is in and where I am situated geographically, when I am in need of some meaty nutrition.

For example:
If the plane crash lands in the desert, then I would not eat a body after its been dead for longer than a day...or if it starts showing signs of decomposition (bloated body, stench, maggots and various other nasty things). So in that case I'd just start eating my own flesh (I have lots of muscles I don't use).

On the other hand if I crash land in a icy mountain, then I might just gnaw on any old body or bone I find (cats, dogs, rats, bears, little children, and even the occasional crazy rabbits). So its hard to say.

[ShadowMaster]

The only reason people think eating dog meat is disgusting is because we think of them as companions.

Also if I ever get eaten by a crocodile I should probally accept it as my lot for eating crocodile, which by the way tastes like chicken.

[Miktar]

(See what I meant about people nitpicking the details, instead of just answering the question, Garson?)

@Nimue - the question is simple: if the ONLY ALTERNATIVE is death, would you eat a dead human to survive?

It doesn't matter where you crashed, who was with you, the alignment of the moon - we're talking the pure, distilled essence of the question here - would you eat another human, if they are dead, if it was the ONLY way for you to survive?

[echo]

I'll only eat strangers, and bury the people I knew.

[dammit]

Honestly I think I would rather die...not because I don't want to eat someone else (hey meat is meat) but maybe thats because I don't see death as the end. (oh and please lets not get into any religious debate)

Then again, at that moment I might decide I have a lot to live for (a family for example) and so may choose the eating people option.

[ShadowMaster]

Human flesh is the healthiest flesh there is because all the minerals and protiens are in the right proportions anyway, so there is little waste unlike cow meat.

So go ahead eat it.

You know you want to...

[Darkmag]

[Comment removed. That was vile and not at all funny. - Azimuth ]

as for vegeterians the lack of protien their body takes in has some side effects like balding and the skin becomes less elastic(granny skin). after all your body is 80% protien. but people can do with there lives as they wish, if someone wants to comit suicide I aint gonna tell them its wrong.

[Nimue]

@Nimue - the question is simple: if the ONLY ALTERNATIVE is death, would you eat a dead human to survive?

It doesn't matter where you crashed, who was with you, the alignment of the moon - we're talking the pure, distilled essence of the question here - would you eat another human, if they are dead, if it was the ONLY way for you to survive?

Even if the corpse is in a final stage of decomposition... turned black already, with fat maggots all over him, stinking from a mile away, with slimy goo all over him? would you?

Edit> (I'm sorry thats the first thought (my general impression of dead things) I have when someone mentions corpses or dead humans. Too much CSI)

[MrDeVil_909]

Hell yes, Meat is meat and a man must eat. Also I wouldn't agonize for too long, want to get it fresh.

As to the whole vegetarian thing, it is a matter of choice, and it is worthy of respect. But let a person say something along the lines of 'How can you eat flesh?' while I'm eating a burger and they will find out first hand the hard way how they can.

As human beings we are by nature omnivores, you can buck the natural order if you like, but don't expect me to,

[Toi]

Hmmmm, I would probably want to eat someone if my life depended on it but...there is no way in hell that I'd be able to stomach it.

So a no for me.

[ShadowMaster]

If the corpse is rotten, don't eat it. You are better of without the nutrition that comes with food poisoning. Rather eat the disgusting maggots their healthy and safe to eat, after you wiped off their bodies.

Dejavu is the wierdest feeling. I just felt like have type this post before.

[Miktar]

*Groan*

It's amazing how people will sweat the details instead of just answering the question in front of them.

It's like some people can't think unless everything is spelled out in immaculate detail.

OBVIOUSLY if the meat is decayed or in a state where eating it would do more harm than good, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE THIS SCENARIO, WOULD IT?

The scenario IS:

Eat the meat, or die.

If the meat wasn't going to help you, the scenario would be eat the meat and die, or don't and die.

Gods.

[wisp]

[Comment removed. That was vile and not at all funny. - Azimuth ]

as for vegeterians the lack of protien their body takes in has some side effects like balding and the skin becomes less elastic(granny skin). after all your body is 80% protien. but people can do with there lives as they wish, if someone wants to comit suicide I aint gonna tell them its wrong.


Are you a doctor or do you have a vast knowledge of the subject that you can make such sweeping statements,never heard of vitamins and protein shakes..

As for commiting suicide,people have been known to die for what they believe in or have you never heard of that either.

[Gldm]

Human flesh is the healthiest flesh there is because all the minerals and protiens are in the right proportions anyway, so there is little waste unlike cow meat.

So go ahead eat it.

You know you want to...


Ummm... quite the opposite. There's a reason people eat sushi and rare steak but you've never heard of a rare porkchop. It's because of the risk of disease transfer. The closer the biological match the greater the chance that what infects one animal can infect another. Even fully cooked there's a considerable risk of contracting disease from human flesh. So even if there weren't large ethical issues involved you probably wouldn't want to eat it anyway if you had a choice.

[ShadowMaster]

Ummm... quite the opposite. There's a reason people eat sushi and rare steak but you've never heard of a rare porkchop. It's because of the risk of disease transfer. The closer the biological match the greater the chance that what infects one animal can infect another. Even fully cooked there's a considerable risk of contracting disease from human flesh. So even if there weren't large ethical issues involved you probably wouldn't want to eat it anyway if you had a choice.

That post was just a pathetic attempt to be funny.

There is truth to it however, white meat is better for people than red, although the latter is tastier, because of the same reason in my previous post.

I have however heard of cannabalists dying from diseases they got from eating human brains. What I can't understand however is why the disease doesn't affect them normally, because it is already in your flesh.

[Gldm]

That post was just a pathetic attempt to be funny.

Actually it wasn't an attempt to be funny at all. What are you talking about?

[ShadowMaster]

Human flesh is the healthiest flesh there is because all the minerals and protiens are in the right proportions anyway, so there is little waste unlike cow meat.

So go ahead eat it.

You know you want to...

The last two sentences are a pathetic attempt to be funny.

[Darkmag]

Are you a doctor or do you have a vast knowledge of the subject that you can make such sweeping statements,never heard of vitamins and protein shakes..

As for commiting suicide,people have been known to die for what they believe in or have you never heard of that either.

They do research on all kinds of stuff and release medical journals on their findings, I just happen to read some of those journals, but you answered my post as thou I said that been a vegeterian is wrong, which I didn`t.

As the second point I said people can kill themself I really wouldn`t care unless 1). I have a bond with that person 2). It happens in my house

I just don`t care what other people do, wether they hate me or love me, just as long as I can do my own thing

now back to the question, ive been thinking some more, and really it depends on the situation. If im stuck with someone on an island then sure I`ll kill them.

however if it is a scenario like SAW or something where someone planned it, then I wouldn`t, I wouldn`t give him the satisfaction of power.

[Garson007]

Okay... This thread is going off-topic; Darkmag if you have nothing to add go create your own thread. Also, ShadowMaster? WTF? What are you on about, we know you are referring to your own post now, but it still doesn't make any sense.

And, yeah, I'd eat the dead to survive, generally.

[ShadowMaster]

I am trying to be funny by trying to get people to eat human flesh by giving "medical evidence" that it is good for you.

If that still doesn't make sense, forget that I ever said it.

[Darkmag]

Darkmag if you have nothing to add go create your own thread

And, yeah, I'd eat the dead to survive, generally.

But I did, I said if its starvations then yes, otherwise No(like someone putting a gun to my head).

I think alot of people will actually kill someone for their meat, if they haven`t eaten food in like 30-days. Its hard to think straight if your in such a state. Your "primal" instincts should kick in right?

[Garson007]

Yeah, but I don't quite get the "kill themself" statement. Maybe I'm just a bit too tired tonight.

[DaBaish]

I would eat all of you if you guys were undead. Rest peacefully tonight as you know that.

[Nimitz]

@ DaBaish

i do not think that how you are treating the forums will make you any friends

[wisp]

@ DaBaish

i do not think that how you are treating the forums will make you any friends

bless u Nimitz and well said