Hotel San Andreas - New-new Mafia thread!

[V. Van Halen]

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V Van Halen wanted to investigate a room that was clearly not of benefit given that we'd found the tourches, and wanted us to stop detaining people. I strongly believe that we should consider detaining him. Does anyone have a solid reason not to?

Perhaps you should read what I said properly. I agreed that the storage room should be searched, I just didn't want to waste our second search on a person but rather use it on another room in the hopes of finding this relic of the thieves. I still find it strange that you, Zappa and Mercury do not seem to follow this logic but try and waste searches on people if there is no clear reason to do so.

[Chippit]

Oh. Look, the forum's back.

To make up for lost time, I'm going to extend the deadline tonight to 9. Do carry on.

[T. Tyler]

V Van Halen be damned, let the chips fall where they may.

[H. Hendrix]

Z. Zappa, cause everyone's doing it.

[R. Rose]

Strange how nobody wants to search the newly found trap door...

[Z. Zappa]

Y'all are wasting time trying to detain me.

Whatever, lets investigate the trapdoor in the storage room.

[V. Van Halen]

V Van Halen be damned, let the chips fall where they may.

Sigh. I truly hope you are a thief....


Strange how nobody wants to search the newly found trap door...

Not nobody:); just interesting how few have voted. What has happened to the once vociferous, and now cleared, Mr K? Anyway, the trapdoor it is.

[Chippit]

Z. Zappa: 2
Sanctuary: 2
V. Van Halen: 1


End of times

Venturing forth into the darkness once again, the group banished the shadows with their torches and lanterns and moved confidently towards the trap door they’d uncovered before. Heaving it open, the group forced Mr Zappa down first, not trusting him to be anywhere where he could escape.

The ladder led down into another cave system, lit by the flickering orange light reflecting around the stone corners. The earth shook suddenly, and as the rumble died down, it was replaced by a soft ululation echoing from ahead.

The smell of pitch and iron washed over the group of guests like a putrid wave, rolling forward from the dim flickering light. As if the safety their numbers could provide was enough to guard against the unknown horrors ahead, the group huddled together and pressed forward against the nauseating dread.

The sound grew louder, the indistinguishable murmur becoming a soft chant, the glowing light dissolving into individual candles arranged around a crude altar. Two lone figures knelt in front of the stone tablet, chanting more emphatically as the earth itself began to vibrate.

A sudden gust of evil air blew through the sanctuary, extinguishing the candles, but the prostrate figures continued their chant. A pulsing, glowing smoke begun to ooze, then pour forth from the sharp corners of the altar until the effluent bellowed from every chiselled edge. The cavern quickly filled with the smoke which simultaneously brightly lit and obscured the contents of the chamber.

The breeze wafted the smoke into funnels, and as the chanting died down the smoke became heavy, impossibly dense, and congealed into a bulbous shape, then three. The smoke figures squirmed, roared and arranged themselves into horror-shapes, canine but not, with slathering tongues that lashed out inquisitively.

The Hounds of Tindalos sensed the guests.

They feasted.


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Cult thieves have successfully stolen all three relics, and correctly associated each relic with its owner.

Cult thief victory!

Character associations:
A. Anderson: pArKeR
B. Bonham: echo
C. Clapton: vii
D. Dickinson: Garson007
E. Elliot: RayRay
F. Fogerty: cr@zydude
G. Gramm: Ro$hi
H. Hendrix: kolle_hond
I. Iha: x_scon
J. Jackson: Sir Panicore
K. Kilmister: Mic
L. Lennon: T_Kill3r
M. Mercury: brazed
N. Nicks: Grimnebulin
O. Osbourne: Demikd
P. Plant: Zoop
R. Rose: nukehead
S. Scholz: SkinkLizzard
T. Tyler: Cleric
U. Ulrich: Toxxyc
V. Van Halen: Mikey
W. Wakeman: CyniKill
Y. Young: wisp
Z. Zappa: Wight

Roles:
Thieves (Dickinson, Nicks, Young)
Your band of relic hunters has cleverly orchestrated this meeting for the sole purpose of acquiring 3 heirlooms from the other visitors in the hotel. Your many years of investigations have tracked these valuable commodities to these 20 people, though you were unable to discern which among them bear the artifacts. You have gathered them together in order to find the objects.
Additionally, you are also aware of the significance of this location, as well as the hidden room accessed through the storage closet on the ground floor, where you will perform a mysterious ceremony involving these items, ostensibly to gain immense wealth.
In order to perform this ceremony, however, you will require the items, as well as a part of its owner; a single hair will suffice, though alternatives may also work.
Your goal is to find the three items among the possessions of the visitors, as well as discern which item belonged to which person.

Murderers (Anderson, Wakeman, Osbourne)
Upon arrival at the hotel, you were pulled aside by the hotel manager and informed of your special role.
The manager tells you how the hotel is famed for staging murder mysteries to entertain their guests. You have been assigned the murderer roles. Numerous clues will be scattered throughout the building, and keen minds may eventually track these bits of evidence to you. It is your job to remain anonymous for as long as possible.

Keen Eyes (Hendrix)
You may, every turn, investigate an additional area.
Your keen vision allows you to spot details and hidden items that the main group may miss. Since you are only one pair of eyes, however, you cannot perform as thorough a search as a group of people will, but you may do so more discreetly.
You can perform a longer, more thorough investigation of an area if you choose. This alternative will provide you with all the information the group will have received in addition to any extra information you discover. This action will take two turns instead of one, and you will be absent at the dining table for some time. You must decide this in advance

Intuition (Jackson)
While you are involved in the game, information gathered by the group may trigger your astounding intuition in order to reveal additional information to you.

Flux Secret (Lennon)
If this player is targeted by the murderers, time and space itself will warp in order to inflict the fate upon another. This player does not know of his role

Stealth Investigator First and second kills (Nicks, Iha)
May investigate players, areas and plant evidence of their even though they have been eliminated from the game.

Anti-thief Third kill (Fogerty)
May attempt to recover stolen artifacts, even though they have been eliminated from the game

[Garson007]

WHO KILLED ME!? I WON. I WON! I won... :'(

[Wight]

Damn! I had no idea that by telling people I lost my heirloom, I hastened the thief victory. Now it explaines why D. Dickinson reacted on that.

[Chippit]

So. Thanks to everyone for playing! A few words again:

That went both better than I feared but worse than I hoped. Indeed, I attribute much of that to the fact that many players here are still very new, and the game was rather different and unusual.

In fact, that's putting it lightly. **** was complicated, even for me; I actually made a frightening number of mistakes in the first two days or so, testament to the fact that this would've worked out better had I not picked such a busy time to do it, and put another week into planning it properly. The complicated nature of the game was likely also to blame for the fact that it was a lot quieter than the first one, even though I tried really hard to make it more involved even for the people who had been eliminated; it's never nice to get killed right at the start, so I tried to mitigate that somewhat.

It was particularly fun to theme it around pop culture this time too, both with the names and the setting and the final conclusion. Some folks seemed to have particular fun with this, which was great!

On the negative side, it was actually shocking to me how readily players were willing to give away secret information, like room numbers etc. In fact, I had to retroactively make a few changes to make the game harder for the thieves after they'd been given most of their necessary information on a plate, to stop them from winning before the main player group even knew of their existence, which would've sucked. It's a lesson for me for next time, to make very clear that information like that should be kept close to one's chest and used as a resource as much as one's voting decisions would be in a standard mafia game. Bit of a large mistake on my part, really.

That and the double vote, actually. I noticed most players weren't using it nearly as well as I intended, probably again because of the complicated nature of the detain/investigate choices. The main motivation for having two actions was to split the votes more evenly, since most mafia games, especially on this forum, tend to suffer from a lot of the voters simply jumping on the voting bandwagon, making the first vote cast unnecessarily weighty. I had hoped that, once people realised it was actually in everyone's best interest to vote against the majority to add more granularity to the second choice and make voting more interesting, players wouldn't vote for the popular option simply because it was a popular option. Only a few players seemed to realise this, so that didn't quite work out as well as I'd have liked.

Also, the random selection for the thief side was actually rather unfair this time. I was tempted to reroll when it landed both Garson and Grim on the same side, but I eventually decided that to cheat the system and modify the results was just as unfair and I left it as it was. Once again, however, Garson played a very good game, and was once again rather cruelly stolen away from victory (at the last day). You all have Mr Hendrix (kolle_hond) to thank for that. Garson's going to hate you forever.

That aside, though, everyone still played along, as odd as the game was, and it played out pretty well in the end. So thanks again for being good sports.

Also. Tell me someone figured out your login passwords. Anyone! I so very much wanted to see someone use that to their advantage, but I'm afraid I don't think anyone did.

[brazed]

Love you chippit, and thank you

[V. Van Halen]

Chippit, thanks for all your effort in a rather mind-boggling game. Although used to playing mafia elsewhere, I must admit I was a bit bewildered and lost in this one - but in a pleasant way. Well done to the victors!

[Garson007]

Damn! I had no idea that by telling people I lost my heirloom, I hastened the thief victory. Now it explaines why D. Dickinson reacted on that.
Which is why I got Gramm to tell everyone he has lost his. ;)

Same story with the rooms. Needed everyone to tell me in what rooms they were staying.

[Mikey]

Which is why I got Gramm to tell everyone he has lost his. ;)

Same story with the rooms. Needed everyone to tell me in what rooms they were staying.

And I thought it was a logical way to find the scum. Sigh. But anyway, I say poo on you all for not detaining Mr D!!! :) but truly a different game; I still hope I can convince Chippit to come play on the dark side :)

[Sir PaniCore]

Yo Crackers!! :P

Seriously who had any Idea that I was the Ballet Dancing gangster (Besides those that saw my login failuires)

Seriously with the intuition I gave you guys so many clues yet, they fell on deaf ears... oh well, are we going to be playing resistance any time soon?

EDIT: OOOHHH, How about the next one has a post-apocalyptic theme... You know since the Thieves succeeded in summoning their monster-things.

[Wight]

Which is why I got Gramm to tell everyone he has lost his. ;)

Same story with the rooms. Needed everyone to tell me in what rooms they were staying.

Smart play! Glass to diamonds indeed.

Also:
Awesome game Chippit n co! I'm looking forward to the big Mafia game in the near future.

Brazed, y u no trust the Zappa?

[nukehead]

Thanks Mr Chippit, twas a grand afair.

I think that Sir PaniCore gets the login fail badge. For some reason when he first posted as Jackson I made the connection. The town drunk to crazy gangster just seemed the route he would take with his logins only confirming my suspicions. I thought I had Garson pegged as Mr Kilmister but was way off, it turns out. Grim as Nicks was a no brainer :P.

I must admit I enjoyed the premise behind this game but being the most clueless person was to my detriment. With each thought of mine being public and a step towards my inevitable demise.

[Mikey]

Thanks Mr Chippit, twas a grand afair.

I think that Sir PaniCore gets the login fail badge. For some reason when he first posted as Jackson I made the connection. The town drunk to crazy gangster just seemed the route he would take with his logins only confirming my suspicions. I thought I had Garson pegged as Mr Kilmister but was way off, it turns out. Grim as Nicks was a no brainer :P.

I must admit I enjoyed the premise behind this game but being the most clueless person was to my detriment. With each thought of mine being public and a step towards my inevitable demise.

You were far to convincing as a grand old damne. Ms Rose :)

[Garson007]

On the negative side, it was actually shocking to me how readily players were willing to give away secret information, like room numbers etc. In fact, I had to retroactively make a few changes to make the game harder for the thieves after they'd been given most of their necessary information on a plate, to stop them from winning before the main player group even knew of their existence, which would've sucked. It's a lesson for me for next time, to make very clear that information like that should be kept close to one's chest and used as a resource as much as one's voting decisions would be in a standard mafia game. Bit of a large mistake on my part, really.
You were just biased against me winning, face it. :D

Besides, they need not know of the importance, but it is always important to realise that information is currency. It was with that in mind that I had to conjure up some sort of reason to validate divulging it. It could easily have been a good and valid reason. I mean, knowing the inhabitants of the rooms could maybe have benefited the civilians. It was a risk for me too because my entire room was filled with thieves.

[cr@zydude]

Wow, now I understand why I couldn't talk to other 'dead' people, I was the only one looking for the damn stolen relics. I was quite confused by that part, thought it would be so much easier with grouped information.

Cool game though, thanks Chippit.

[Grimnebulin]

Grim as Nicks was a no brainer :P.

I just couldn't help myself. And to be honest, I don't regret it! But it was interesting to be able to continue playing behind the scenes, although I think I was somewhat hamstrung by the fact that since my thief identity was disclosed, it meant no one was willing to listen to the clues I was leaving. :(

Thanks Chippit! Awesome theme, enjoyable level of complexity, and even though it perhaps didn't come off as you'd hoped, if we can develop a core group of players and have a game fairly regularly, our collective experience can only improve.

But really you lot, Garson as Dickinson! For shame!

[Cleric]

I have little idea just what the hell went on during this game, but I did enjoy it.

Thanks Chippit! Really appreciate the time you put into it, especially as it seems like things been pretty hectic of late.

Unfortunately I think the game was just too complex for us beginners. I spent most time just trying to figure out what was going on, and never got to get into character.

Looking forward to the next, hopefully a bit simpler, mafia game.

[cr@zydude]

I have little idea just what the hell went on during this game, but I did enjoy it.

Thanks Chippit! Really appreciate the time you put into it, especially as it seems like things been pretty hectic of late.

Unfortunately I think the game was just too complex for us beginners. I spent most time just trying to figure out what was going on, and never got to get into character.

Looking forward to the next, hopefully a bit simpler, mafia game.

I also spent quite some time confused. I think Chppit did one hell of a job, but I struggled to keep up at times.

[kolle_hond]

WHO KILLED ME!? I WON. I WON! I won... :'(

It was a stupid move on my part not to notice earlier, as we had a random encounter when I searched the one room. At least I got to stall the game for one turn :D

[Cleric]

Can I submit that whoever signed up but didn't participate be banned from the next game?

[Grimnebulin]

Oh, and I'm curious as to who took me out. Cyni, if it was you, you'll have some 'splaining to do!

(though I'm pretty sure it was pArkEr)

[Chippit]

You were just biased against me winning, face it. :D

Besides, they need not know of the importance, but it is always important to realise that information is currency. It was with that in mind that I had to conjure up some sort of reason to validate divulging it. It could easily have been a good and valid reason. I mean, knowing the inhabitants of the rooms could maybe have benefited the civilians. It was a risk for me too because my entire room was filled with thieves.

Yeah, there was a reason I put you all together. ;)

Surprised nobody put two and two together when you were killed; at that point they might've realised that you and Grim shared a room. Had they immediately detained the other thieves one-by-one, they'd have won.

But yes, you had a good ruse, you did, especially by having Gramm claim to have lost an item. Too bad you didn't know that the relic owners themselves didn't know they had a relic until it was stolen. ;)

[brazed]

Brazed, y u no trust the Zappa?

:(

Was the double-Z. Reminded me of pizza and I'm trying to be more healthy.

[Zoop]

See, I told you I was innocent, but nooo.

Also, I sadly didn't follow this game nearly as much as was required, but I kept forgetting about the thread, then had tons of catching up to do every time. Also, I totally didn't have anything in my suitcase, as far as I know. Whoever accused me made a wild guess and I went with it.

[CyniKill]

Sorry guys. Minecraft took hold of my soul and didn't let go. I completely forgot about everything, even studying for exams. If there's anyone we should blame, it's Geo for hosting the server. :P


Oh, and I'm curious as to who took me out. Cyni, if it was you, you'll have some 'splaining to do!

(though I'm pretty sure it was pArkEr)

It was me! I did it to cause more confusion or something. Can't quite remember.

Once again, sorry!

[S. Scholz]

thanks chippit was a fun game. I'd love to know which faction got me, if things follow usual patterns I'd say it was thieves under d.dickinson because I stopped suspecting him of murder (didn't know about thieves yet :( )

edit: nice move on the invisible user there cynikill
also this is the first time I've posted with an account other than I meant to.

[CyniKill]

It wasn't on purpose. I didn't even send my PMs to Chippit like I was supposed to. :\

I have a feeling you were the victim of Lennon's special ability.

[Grimnebulin]

It was me! I did it to cause more confusion or something. Can't quite remember.

Once again, sorry!

I see the bonds of siblinghood are fragile indeed!

;)

[Mikey]

You were just biased against me winning, face it. :D

Besides, they need not know of the importance, but it is always important to realise that information is currency. It was with that in mind that I had to conjure up some sort of reason to validate divulging it. It could easily have been a good and valid reason. I mean, knowing the inhabitants of the rooms could maybe have benefited the civilians. It was a risk for me too because my entire room was filled with thieves.

Thing is, my grounding in Mafia is that information is key to towns survival, seeing as scum can talk and plan amongst themselves while town sit in isolation, and their only info is what their roles obtain and how it is divulged in the open thread. Thus, town always try and get as much accurate info out there as quickly as possible, but balancing the risk that scum will target you. So this was a 180 degree paradigm shift for me - and one I only realised afterwards. But what a creative game - should get an award :)

[Garson007]

Thing is, my grounding in Mafia is that information is key to towns survival, seeing as scum can talk and plan amongst themselves while town sit in isolation, and their only info is what their roles obtain and how it is divulged in the open thread. Thus, town always try and get as much accurate info out there as quickly as possible, but balancing the risk that scum will target you. So this was a 180 degree paradigm shift for me - and one I only realised afterwards. But what a creative game - should get an award :)
Totally. By claiming some sort of detective power I was protecting myself, but at the same time telling people "This information is vital to our survival." They fell for it hook, line and sinker.

[Mikey]

Totally. By claiming some sort of detective power I was protecting myself, but at the same time telling people "This information is vital to our survival." They fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Yeh man - you played bloody well! I was gagging in frustration that no-one else would join me in investigating you; but I think that is Kudo's to how well you were pulling the strings. So respect dude :)

[Mic]

Sorry guys, and especially sorry Chippit, that I was so absent the last few days [or was it weeks?]. I couldn't get away from my Engineering course and University stuff, and when I got around to it there was just too much catching up to do :( Please forgive me and not ban me from the next game.

Playing as K. Kilmister was crazy fun, I enjoyed the RP and should definitely get these accounts again. Having nothing else to roll with except a sweet name was fun too :D Thanks for a great game Chippit. One small thing I would like to add, don't know if anyone will agree with me, but I think the investigation vote wasn't harsh enough.

[x-scon]

Also. Tell me someone figured out your login passwords. Anyone! I so very much wanted to see someone use that to their advantage, but I'm afraid I don't think anyone did.

So, are you at least going to tell us what this was about?
I've looked at anagrams of my password, but nothing made any sense. I checked out songs by James Iha (I hope I had the right musician) but nothing could be linked to my password... Obviously I'm doing this wrong :(

[Chippit]

So, are you at least going to tell us what this was about?
I've looked at anagrams of my password, but nothing made any sense. I checked out songs by James Iha (I hope I had the right musician) but nothing could be linked to my password... Obviously I'm doing this wrong :(

Halfway there!

They're not anagrams, though. They're initialisms of song lyrics. If I recall correctly, yours were either from Bullet with Butterfly Wings or from Here is No Why. I even went as far as giving our two Led Zep guys the same password (You can't make an initialism out of aaaaaAAAaaaaaaahhh-aaah (http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/) as much as I would've liked to, so it was probably from Stairway or Black Dog. I don't remember anymore).

Also, you all suck. :P

(Cue everyone trying to login to everyone else's accounts. Too late guys. Too late. ;))

[Chippit]

Yeh man - you played bloody well! I was gagging in frustration that no-one else would join me in investigating you; but I think that is Kudo's to how well you were pulling the strings. So respect dude :)

Also, see, this is why we do alternate accounts. If we don't, Garson's inevitably the first one lynched, because everyone's terrified of him. And for good reason.

[x-scon]

Halfway there!

They're not anagrams, though. They're initialisms of song lyrics. If I recall correctly, yours were either from Bullet with Butterfly Wings or from Here is No Why. I even went as far as giving our two Led Zep guys the same password (You can't make an initialism out of aaaaaAAAaaaaaaahhh-aaah (http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/) as much as I would've liked to, so it was probably from Stairway or Black Dog. I don't remember anymore).

Also, you all suck. :P

(Cue everyone trying to login to everyone else's accounts. Too late guys. Too late. ;))

Found it! \o/

It's from Today (http://www.netphoria.org/pumpkinvault/today.htm)!

Today is the greatest
Day I've ever known
Can't live for tomorrow
Tomorrow's much too long
I'll burn my eyes out
Before I get out....
...
..
.

My password was titgdiek.
That would have driven me crazy if I couldn't figure it out. Too bad we didn't realise the importance of the passwords earlier. But honestly, trying to guess an initialism from so many songs is insane.

I looked through about 30 of their songs before deciding to guess. I googled "this is the greatest day i've ever known". So close! Every single result on the first page gave me the correct answer though. Did you ever drop any clues regarding the importance of the passwords? I guess we need to be much more attentive in the next round. Also, now that we know about this you probably won't make it this "easy" again :|

Ah well, thanks for running the games for us. It's obviously a lot more work than anyone here can imagine. Your efforts are appreciated.

Oh, Miss Iha and Ms Rose are willing to thank you personally, if you know what I mean? :P

[Chippit]

I made them all from songs that are most strongly associated with the band. I picked what would be considered the artist's "most famous" song, when such a song was obvious (Bohemian, Imagine, Bad Moon Rising, Layla, etc.). Often, of course, it wasn't obvious, but then I usually just picked my favourite, and/or the most ridiculous line they ever wrote (like that delightful line I used for Mr Anderson from Aqualung, or from Pink for Tyler).

And of course, no game was complete without a bit of More Than a Feeling, so of course Mr Scholz's line is from there. ;)

[Mikey]

Also, see, this is why we do alternate accounts. If we don't, Garson's inevitably the first one lynched, because everyone's terrified of him. And for good reason.

I think I see what you mean :). Dude is talented. Ja, in my "normal" games what we call the "active" players are often the first targeted -as in lynched or night killed. But that just refers to people who post a lot. If someone is reckoned to be a good player, they are very often killed by scum when said good player is not part of the family. So hope you don't mind if I try and infringe your "copyright" hey :)

[Toxxyc]

You guys have no idea how hard I had to concentrate to keep typing without capital letters, decent grammar and horrible spelling mistakes. The red lines from Google Chrome irritated the living **** out of me...

All in all, thanks Chippit. It wasn't as alive as I'd had hoped it'd be (I was **** busy, still am actually), but it wasn't bad. The scale upon which it exploded into more and more was confusing for me, as I only visited about twice a day. But thanks! :)