Fabel 2

[Vexo]

Read this !!!! (http://games.kikizo.com/news/200708/015_p1.asp?id=nn)
Fable 1 was one of the funnest games i have ever played.
I loved the combat system and reading this article it seems that
they are putting even more effort into it.
I think one of the reason i never really like oblivion
was because of the crap combat system.
Lionhead is one of the only companies that makes me
feel that they are really putting game play before graphics,
although the graphics are always awesome.
I mean look at Crysis the first thing you read in any article is the amazing graphics then read this article and he does not mention graphics ones.
I am really looking forward to this game.

Some screenies for the lazy :)
http://games.kikizo.com/media/molyneux_aug07/04.jpg
http://games.kikizo.com/media/molyneux_aug07/05.jpg
http://games.kikizo.com/media/molyneux_aug07/02.jpg
http://games.kikizo.com/media/molyneux_aug07/01.jpg

[Magon]

Totally agree with you, but Oblivon's combat wasn't that bad just think the developers were trying to balance RPG with action. Can't wait till they realease info on the 3rd major gameplay factor of Fable 2

[Miktar]

Lionhead is one of the only companies that makes me

Lionhead is not Blue Box, btw...

Ironically, I thought the combat system was the weakest point of Fable, next only to the horrible excuse for an "open ended" world...

[FoX]

the combat in fable was (for me) gr8 it was simple it is one of the best game i have and well worth the R350 i paid for it :)

[Vexo]

Lionhead is not Blue Box, btw...

Ironically, I thought the combat system was the weakest point of Fable, next only to the horrible excuse for an "open ended" world...

I would agree that it was not a totally open ended world but i loved the fighting system.
In most RPG's you simply point your mouse to the enemy and bash your your left mouse button, games like Sacred,DungeonSiege2,Titan Quest.

[Miktar]

I would agree that it was not a totally open ended world but i loved the fighting system.

In most RPG's you simply point your mouse to the enemy and bash your your left mouse button, games like Sacred,DungeonSiege2,Titan Quest, Fable

There, I've fixed your post.

Btw. You listed a whole bunch of Hack'n'Slash games there, not a single RPG.

Diablo, Dungeon Siege, Sacred and Titan Quest are *not RPG*, they are Hack'n'Slash.

[Vexo]

lol
ok well then Fable wasn't a "Hack'n'Slash".
You hit space bar and then focus on your opponent where you could doge attacks or attack or block to get that super shot to penetrate their blocks, compare that to left click left click left click left click left click left click left click ........

[Vexo]

o and you might not like it but officially they are all RPG's

[Darkmag]

Baldur`s Gate people and fallout now thats an RPG


lol
left click left click left click left click left click left click left click ........

What?? you forgot about the spell casting and potions

[MrDeVil_909]

Baldur`s Gate people and fallout now thats an RPG

Never played Fallout unfortunately, but Baldu'r GAte and Icewind Dale were teh roXXorz.

[Vexo]

Baldur`s Gate people and fallout now thats an RPG



What?? you forgot about the spell casting and potions

:) Left click to use potion and left click to use spells :)

[Azimuth]

o and you might not like it but officially they are all RPG's

Actually, officially, they're action RPGs. But we call them hack 'n' slashers, because that's what they are.

Let's leave the definitions to those people who know what they're talking about, mmmkay? Kthnx.

[Q-Man]

@ Azimuth, stop being like that. And saying those things. It hurts people's feelings. And makes me love you. I can't love you *looks away dramatically* not after last time.

P.S. Fable 2 is looking good. I must agree with the comments about 'open-endedness' in Fable 1 though. What a farce. The day a game allows me to pull down my pants and take a **** *in front of a granny*, not only will I say that gaming has finally wrought an open-ended "do-anything-you-want" title, but I will also officially shave my cat and throw it at a postman out of glee.

[GeometriX]

Agh, whatever, I'm not bothered if Fable 2 turns out to be more of Fable 1, just with better stuffz, in fact - I'm really counting on that. I like Fable because it's so simple. I have games I play just for the sake of staring at a computer screen while mashing my controllers in the bad-guy's general direction, there's nothing wrong with that.

Sure, I have my real RPGs, they're for the other me, the one that likes epic adventures and 3rd year mathematics requirements for the stats screens.

Anyway, I know nobody is saying otherwise, I'm not really arguing with anyone, just though I'd put it out there. Someone can pick it up if they'd like.

Oh, Mr D - go play Fallout - now! You must play Fallout, it is the best, you love Fallout, you worship Fallout, you are Fallout.

[Vexo]

Actually, officially, they're action RPGs. But we call them hack 'n' slashers, because that's what they are.

Let's leave the definitions to those people who know what they're talking about, mmmkay? Kthnx.

Officially Sacred is a Acyion RPG and Dungeon Siege is a normal RPG
Please don't try to act all cleaver .

[Azimuth]

Dungeon Siege has no dialogue options. It is an action RPG.

I don't need to act clever. I just am.

[blitz]

anyone watched the trailer on NAG (June) and also found that the background music making you crazy?

[Vexo]

Dungeon Siege has no dialogue options. It is an action RPG.

I don't need to act clever. I just am.

Then do some research mister clever, a simple google will prove you wrong.
Well i have had enough of people thinking they are the siznez.

If anybody want to discuss Fable 2 i will join you.
If anybody want to be childish and try boosting there e-penis go to "Off-Topic Discussion" please.

[Azimuth]

Then do some research mister clever, a simple google will prove you wrong.
Well i have had enough of people thinking they are the siznez.

If anybody want to discuss Fable 2 i will join you.
If anybody want to be childish and try boosting there e-penis go to "Off-Topic Discussion" please.

Make that "Miss Clever". By the way, as a professional games journalist, I usually know what I'm talking about. Since, like, it's what I do for a living. And stuff.

Thanks for playing. Bye bye.

[Miktar]

@ Vexo: Take it on the chin, and roll with it. Stop being a hardass when you're on the losing side.

[Vexo]

Im not a hard ass, i know miss clever thinks that she knows everything but simply looking at the wiki of the games proves her wrong. Im not hear to argue with anybody i am here to discuss games and talk to fellow gamers. Thats why i post mostly in gaming discussions.
On the previous forum you said that this forum is going to be more focused on gaming discussions and less on other rubbish . So im not heard to prove you wrong if it is a RPG or an action RPG, frankly i dont give a ****, im here to discuss Fabel 2 or any other game that interests me .

[Azimuth]

Wiki? Orly?


Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_role-playing_game#Variant_terminology):


Many games commonly referred to as CRPGs, such as Diablo II or Dungeon Siege, are often described more specifically as Action RPGs. This subgenre tends to be faster-paced, more skill intensive and focused on combat, while lacking developed plot and dialogue. Sometimes Action RPGs are also referred to as hack and slashers.

The argument is now over. I was right.

[Miktar]

I did warn you, Vexo. :P

Look, we all see where you're coming from, but you have to understand that you're coming up against a wall of terminology that has been very much defined - one that you will come to understand very quickly, so don't worry about it.

[Vexo]

O well i saw this
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4379/untitledhh5.jpg

[Magon]

OMG where is the Fable 2! Why must brother battle brother, its just not worth it.

[Vexo]

im all for discussing Fable 2
Here is some awesome screenies . (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaITATr2C9c)
:) we always made those paper things in primary school.
I normally enjoy these kind of games more in consoles or a controller for you pc.
They prob later make it available for pc ?

[Miktar]

Dungeon Siege II introduced branching conversation trees, btw. Dungeon Siege 1 didn't.

[Magon]

I remember the huge time gap of Halo and Fable coming to the PC, but Fable 2 will probably be available for PC as well (After a huge time gap). So its probably better to satisfy your hunger by getting it on console.

[Azimuth]

Looks to me like Wikipedia lists Dungeon Siege 2 as an action RPG now. This, incidentally, proves two points. I imagine you should be able to figure them out.

Give it up, Vexo. As Miktar pointed out earlier, why not just quietly learn something here instead of being so pointlessly difficult about it?

This argument ends now. Vexo, any further commentary about this, and you'll get an infraction. Not because I'm a spiteful bitch, but because this has gone on long enough. Back on topic, please.

*throws lollipops*

[EDIT] Dungeon Siege 2 did have branching conversation trees, but they had no impact on the game. It simply doesn't count. There isn't really any actual roleplaying in that game besides being a serial killer. ^^

[Darkmag]

@ vexo trust me just stop Azimuth is a real sore looser, you`ll only get forum warnings from her, trust me she gave me 3 already, this post will most likely give me another


By the way, as a professional games journalist, I usually know what I'm talking about. Since, like, it's what I do for a living

Wow trying to raise your statis over the internet amazing, anyway the point is that it doesn`t mean you know anything about games, it means that we as consumers HOPE you do. but its like I said you have a "my club is bigger than ours" attitude and unfortunenatly you are a mod so I can`t put you on ignore and you`ll properly give me like 125 warnings for this or even a ban I don`t know suprise me.<-- The end of my boring rant

Fable was one of the coolest RPG`s ive played, becuase it had a nice arcade feel to it was linear ok too linear. Fable was something new in style, and also I liked the graphics it looked cool and made the game feel like a story which it should

I do agree with Miktar on the combat system, it wasn`t the best but compared to the average pc rpg it was something new something diffrent. My bigest problem however was the difficulty of the game it was insanly easy also the menu system was icky

I hope Fable 2 improve on the weaknesses of Fable TLC. I for one am looking forward to it

[Azimuth]

I've only given you ONE infraction, Darkmag - and that was for posting extremely offensive comments about necrophilia. But believe me, I'm twitching to give you another. I'm tired of your rubbish. I do not expect you to like me, but I've never slagged you off on the forum, and expect you to return this courtesy.

[GeometriX]

In case nobody has noticed, this thread is just turning into one of the million ugly, useless threads that destroyed the old forums. The two sides involved in this argument (please note, there is currently no argument about the definition of RPGs) will just end up hating each other for whatever reason, blah blah blah etc.

Please, we've seen all this crap before. Will someone just delete ALL the off-topic nonsense that's been posted here (sure, this post included) so we can just get on with our lives and discuss Fable 2?

[/opinion]

[Miktar]

One more post about it after this post, and whoever does it is banned, no argument.

[Magon]

Yay! (about Fable 2 and not the off-topic stuff)

[Azimuth]

I know one of the original comments in this thread was about gameplay taking precedence over graphics (something I agree with), but I do have to say that those screenshots look awfully pretty.

Sort of reminds me of the style of Monkey Island 3.

[Vexo]

Azimuth i saw you got Overlord.
I have only played the demo but somehow the game reminded me of Fable?

[Azimuth]

Hmmm. Visually, it's certainly very similar indeed - although Overlord is much, much prettier. But the gameplay is totally different. I'm not even certain how to classify Overlord, although I suppose action strategy would do. The two games really aren't comparable in terms of what they actually are.

[ReinHer]

I thought Overlord was very ugly and the game didn't offer any anti-aliasing option, unlike Fable, so I had to force it. It kept looking unbareably ugly untill I took the AA to 16XQ (Q?) and then it looked ok and most of the jaggies were gone.

[brazed]

So...people are actually looking forward to fable 2? I can't see why, the first game was one of the biggest dissapointments I've ever suffered in gaming. I know a lot of people liked it, but I wasn't one of them.

[Garson007]

How can you not like Fable? ;_; It's just one of those games I can go back to time and again and finish all over again. That's what arcade game play is all about and I loved it.

[Miktar]

How can you not like Fable? ;_; It's just one of those games I can go back to time and again and finish all over again. That's what arcade game play is all about and I loved it.

Personally:

1) Poor combat
2) Incomplete sections
3) Incomplete game
4) It's lackluster

And don't you dare call Fable "arcade gameplay", that's just /wrong/.

[Garson007]

I wasn't the first; I picked it up in this thread. <_< Although I must agree, it's not arcade, I was just searching for a word that describes simple game play; I was at fault there. In that respect it's a lot like freelancer, which was also based around a simple game play model. It's the same reason I like sport titles.

[Darkmag]

It's the same reason I like sport titles.

Dude what are on drugs or something?

I believe I was the first one that called it arcade, but seriously I can`t find any other world to decribe how cool it was, the game just had massive replay value.

[Vexo]

Ya i also don't see the similarities to sports games.
Weird how some of us loved it and others totally hated it .

[Garson007]

Um, simple game play system; sport. No relation?

[Vexo]

No i really i don't see any relation.

[RazoR89]

Graphics looks ok but game looks boring , soz for being so negative but fps ftw ! :)

[Sir)Kickasselot]

The more things change,the more they stay the same.......Nag has had a facelift,but in essence it's the exact same old clicks and smart asses nitt picking over small grammar mistakes and tecnicalities instead of just being chilled and consentrating on the important stuff.

[Azimuth]

And how is this on topic?*

* Rhetorical question

[X-Ploding_Shoes]

Personally:

1) Poor combat
2) Incomplete sections
3) Incomplete game
4) It's lackluster

And don't you dare call Fable "arcade gameplay", that's just /wrong/.

1.) The combat was simple...not poor...you locked on and you could block and do a critical hit...simple not poor. Are you forgetting the loads of spells you could do?
2.) I've completed the game backwards and forwards...I don't recall any incomplete sections.
3.) Same as above.
4.) I thought the plot was very well rounded..there were alot od side quests and little things to keep you interested...and the general game came well together and was fun and enjoyable:)

[Paradox]

I think Miktar is referring to the things they promised in Fable, but didn't deliver, Shoes. There were quite a few things actually, though I would have to delve through old interviews and previews to find them.

[X-Ploding_Shoes]

I think Miktar is referring to the things they promised in Fable, but didn't deliver, Shoes. There were quite a few things actually, though I would have to delve through old interviews and previews to find them.

Well come on! What game hasn't hyped it self up a bit..and I know a lot of things where promised and not delivered, but it's still a great game.

[Paradox]

Never said it wasn't a great game, I loved it myself. But it was incomplete, unfortunately. Same with Black & White, but I think that was more of a fan hype thing.

[Vexo]

One game that they hyped about allot was Battle for middle earth 1.
Every month we saw a little clip about the amazing new features.
Like you don't have a worker you just build on those circles.
What happened ? The game was crap.
They realized their mistake and launched Battle for middle earth 2
where they basically took Battle for middle earth 1 and took out all the
"amazing features" and imo Battle for middle earth 2 was a grate game.

[Paradox]

Most people would disagree with you there about the build system Vexo, but this is a Fable 2 thread, so lets not go into it here.

Seriously, one button combat in Fable 2? I've heard (Albeit from previews) it plays well, but it sounds kind of boring. Maybe its going to be a combo system or something.

[X-Ploding_Shoes]

Most people would disagree with you there about the build system Vexo, but this is a Fable 2 thread, so lets not go into it here.

Seriously, one button combat in Fable 2? I've heard (Albeit from previews) it plays well, but it sounds kind of boring. Maybe its going to be a combo system or something.

What is with you people? Do you really want a game where the combat system requires around 30 different buttons? Simple is better, espicially on the PC. PoPs control system on PC was frankly retarded, ahving to keep my one hand on the mouse, while my other hands fingers try without merit to stretch and hold bothe the A key and P key at the same time...

[Paradox]

AFAIK this has only been announced on the 360.

Simple is better, but it can be difficult fighting with one button that does everything, from parrying and blocking to offensive moves, So one button to attack and another to block is all one could ask for. But hey, if their system works, then it works. I'm not asking for three hundred buttons, but not simply one either.

[0blivios]

I have been waiting for this game for ages. like a realy long time. like since after i finished fable 1 for the 20th time.and now after watching all sorts of trailers for it i have noticed i big problem with the highly anticipated game. its not coming out on PC any time soon, this makes no sense i meen they did the same thing with the original game (which i never played)on the Xbox but im sure it was better on pc. everything is better on pc! it did inspire me 2 buy a 360(it never happened) maby that why there doing this 2 boost there sales or something. but still lion head is company , it makes me wander if maybe Microsoft pushed them into the position. and its not like a can buy a 360 now cous i just got a Pc that i have 2 upgrd badly . i meen a cant play half the games i buy.

any way hopefully by the time all the money my parents(yea it depressing) is returned and i upgrd Fable 2 will get released for PC and i can become emperor of Albion 500year after the demise of jack of blades, on my PC! @($.$)@

[Azimuth]

Please pay better attention to your writing, Oblivios. That post gave me a headache.

As for the one-button control system - it worked marvellously in Gears of War. Don't get hung up on the concept, but rather the implementation. In other words, let's just wait and see.

[Vexo]

Please pay better attention to your writing, Oblivios. That post gave me a headache.

O you just have to complain don't you.



I have been waiting for this game for ages. like a realy long time. like since after i finished fable 1 for the 20th time.and now after watching all sorts of trailers for it i have noticed i big problem with the highly anticipated game. its not coming out on PC any time soon, this makes no sense i meen they did the same thing with the original game (which i never played)on the Xbox but im sure it was better on pc. everything is better on pc! it did inspire me 2 buy a 360(it never happened) maby that why there doing this 2 boost there sales or something. but still lion head is company , it makes me wander if maybe Microsoft pushed them into the position. and its not like a can buy a 360 now cous i just got a Pc that i have 2 upgrd badly . i meen a cant play half the games i buy.

any way hopefully by the time all the money my parents(yea it depressing) is returned and i upgrd Fable 2 will get released for PC and i can become emperor of Albion 500year after the demise of jack of blades, on my PC! @($.$)@

I rate that they will defineltly launch it on the pc later on.

About the combat system looks like they are making allot changes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nzI1pYj8k
btw WTF is with the soccer match at the end :)

[Garson007]

No actually, such writing is very very very difficult to read. :/

[someoneelse]

1.) The combat was simple...not poor...you locked on and you could block and do a critical hit...simple not poor. Are you forgetting the loads of spells you could do?
2.) I've completed the game backwards and forwards...I don't recall any incomplete sections.
3.) Same as above.
4.) I thought the plot was very well rounded..there were alot od side quests and little things to keep you interested...and the general game came well together and was fun and enjoyable:)

1.) Making numbered lists whilst arguing a point can make one seem narcisistic
2.) Arguing over whether someone else should change their opinion of a game is pretty useless

imo, Fable was horribly dissapointing when compared to various previews yet it was still a quirky fun game to play that had super badass looking swords and hammers and shat.

Fable 2 isnt sounding as ambitious after Peter M. jumped the gun on all those missing fable 1 features, think he learned his lesson. The dog looks pretty cool, kinda. Hope its more like a Terminator 2 and not like a Dumb and Dumberer

[Azimuth]

I'm really not at all sure how listing points in numbered sequence is in any way narcissistic. o_O

[Miktar]

1.) The combat was simple...not poor...you locked on and you could block and do a critical hit...simple not poor. Are you forgetting the loads of spells you could do?
2.) I've completed the game backwards and forwards...I don't recall any incomplete sections.
3.) Same as above.
4.) I thought the plot was very well rounded..there were alot od side quests and little things to keep you interested...and the general game came well together and was fun and enjoyable:)

I played the original Xbox version. Doing spells during combat was akin to suicide - the control scheme was horrific.

I've not played the PC version, but it sounds like they fixed a lot of things. Doesn't change my opinion though.

[someoneelse]

The "extra" content in the PC version is laughable.


I'm really not at all sure how listing points in numbered sequence is in any way narcissistic. o_O

Trust me, numbered lists are teh-evil!

[ioiiooio]

Judging by this thread I think it's safe to say you'll either love it or hate it. I personaly find it very appealing and will def look forward to it.

peace-1ove-ase

[Vexo]

A little update.
At GDC 08 they announced offline Co-op.
Listening to Peter Molyneux in these videos i am assuming they will announce online Co-op later on.What you guys think ?
Here is the GDC 08 vidz
Fable 2 - GDC - 'Couch Co-op' Pt 1 & 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJMLfaE4PS8)
Fable 2 - GDC - 'Couch Co-op' Pt 3 - Combat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=114S49qus5k)

Here is all the Diary episode so far
Lionhead Video Diary Episode One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qWkDEXUkY)
Lionhead Video Diary Episode Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZyMrZtj2uw)
Lionhead Video Diary Episode Three (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVaJdc4zT48)
Lionhead Video Diary Episode Four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brWTQoLZSdI)
Lionhead Video Diary Episode Five (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmPQWVJpTGA)

[groen]

Qoute from Wiki "Fable 2 is an upcoming role playing video game exclusively for the Xbox 360"

:_(
I so need an xbox

[TriggerHappy]

Maybe because i never read any of the previews for Fable 1 that I wasn't dissapointed when i played it.

Aren't the Hobbes simply adorable
http://community.lionhead.com/photos/fable2_photos/picture2844004.aspx
http://image.bayimg.com/gajdiaabg.jpg
http://image.bayimg.com/gajdjaabg.jpg

[Vexo]

Some nice new images
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085755214.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085758667.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085801652.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085806214.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085813105.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085823339.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085825917.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085832901.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085835729.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/873/873490/fable-2-20080513085841011.jpg

[Paradox]

The H-scroll! It buuuurnzzz usssss.... *hiss*

Nice screenies though.

[Phantom_ZA]

Nice screens, I'm just disappointed that it's not planned to be released on pc. However, this might eventually happen since there have been various pc ports as of late. I hope that I won't have to purchase a 360 for this, *sigh*.

[vii]

TBH, The screenies so far look alot like fable 1 in terms of graphics... not a huge upgrade...not that I mind, just noticed it! I hope it has some awesome features and thingys... Oh i loved fable played it a billion gajillion times!

[Phantom_ZA]

Fable always had that unique, warm and cozy atmosphere about it :).

[Azimuth]

I love that little troll guy with the bucket on his head. For all its faults, Fable had some marvellous art direction and character design - and Fable 2 is picking right up where its predecessor left off.

[vii]

I never heard about fable before playing it, so i had no idea that it was supposed to be the holy grail... and to me, at the time it was the holy grail! I loved it! and hobbes = pure win! And the pink pimp hat! And the awesome assasins clothes! OMG! I LOOOOVE FABLE!

*goes to find his fable cd's...installs!

[Drakus]

I'm so going to get my wife to play this game with me.

[Phantom_ZA]

I'm so going to get my wife to play this game with me.

Did you get that idea from the dev diary 5?

[vii]

I'm so going to get my wife to play this game with me.

Your living the dream man, living the dream!

[Drakus]

Dev diary 5???

Whoop-whoop! (http://kotaku.com/389992/fable-2-in-action-dog-included)


Your living the dream man, living the dream!

I can dream, can't I? I got my wife to play Diablo 2 and Sacred. So this one will be no problem. She'll probably want all the gold and I'll keep all the experience points ;)

[Phantom_ZA]

You should watch the Fable 2 development diaries on youtube.

[Drakus]

Check out my previous (edited) post with vid.

[Vexo]

Apparently you can now play as a female as well.

[Drakus]

Not apparently, It's a fact. Check out the dev diaries, that PhantomZA mentioned, at the Lionhead website.

[Vexo]

The player will have a room that stores all your money.
Thats cool now you will be able to see your mountain of gold :)

[Vexo]

I have seen the diary's i am reading the live blog.
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7939840&publicUserId=5844217

[Chuluka]

Thats cool now you will be able to see your mountain of gold :)

Just like in Overlord, it was so cool to see how much gold you actually had.

I'm really considering getting a 360 for this and a few other games that aren't coming on PC.

*Curses PC hating developers*

[Vexo]

http://www.gamespot.com/video/927246/6191426/videoplayerpop?
New interview
You don't get any money for doing quest only experience.

[Phantom_ZA]

Apparently one has to acquire a job in order to receive gold. Monyleux also announced that an assassin is one of the various occupations available ;).

[Vexo]

Ya the others jobs sounds boring !

[Aval4nche]

Apparently you can now play as a female as well.

Not only can you play as a female, you can also get pregnant! Imagine popping out a lil' blighter in the middle of a quest! LOLZ

[Drakus]

Nooooooo! Jobs in a game world sounds so wrong.

[Teek]

But being the assassin proffesion makes it right.

[Drakus]

Yeah, but not if my wife sends me "to go get a job" again!

[Vexo]

If assassin is the only cool job then everybody is going to be evil.
They must have thought of that.
In Fable you could buy a house and rent it out, maybe that's the way to go after having enough gold to buy a house or 2.

[Phantom_ZA]

Yes, fotunatley Fable 2 provides an abundance of means to acquire finance, real estate is one of them ;).

[rogue]

caaaaaaaaaaaaaaant wait for F2!!!

[vii]

caaaaaaaaaaaaaaant wait for F2!!!

Oh thank you for this enlightening post... I dont know what i would have done without you...

[Phantom_ZA]

creep, are you excited for Fable 2? :P

[vii]

Extremely... But alas, I hast not thein Xbox360 with which to play fable2. Im pretty much considering getting a 360 for fable 2, and gta. But mostly fable2.
I want to play it so so badly...
Oh screw it
*installs fable again
Time for another replay! Assasin suit, here i come! :D

[Phantom_ZA]

Then we can start the ''I bought my 360 for Fable 2'' club.

[vii]

Yeah, no offense to GTA4, but if theres one game that could get me to buy a 360... it will be fable2! I needzz it! It just looks so sodding awesome!

[R33KO]

I completely agree. Even though I played the first Fable on PC, there is no way I'm letting this gem slip through my hands. I'll even consider going to a friends house telling them that my parents are away at a conference, just to use their 360 *Evil Laugh*

[Cleric]

Then we can start the ''I bought my 360 for Fable 2'' club.
Lol, we thought about that, but then most of us wanted to call it the "I bought my 360 for Fable 2, GTA4, GoW2, Force Unleashed, and to play Yoda in Soul Calibur 4" Club.

And I'm sure there are plenty other "reasons" out there...

[R33KO]

I originally wanted an Xbox for Dead Rising, but alas my dreams where shot down by my parents' "Waste of Money" ray-gun.

[vii]

My current plan is to save money... So when my birthday comes(mid august) I can ask for a 360, and then i have some money for games... Its a shot... I just wonder how great a 360 is going to work at uni, i almost have no time for games any more, so I'm hoping i can find time for my 360! :D But i need to convince my rentals that a R2000 console isnt a complete waste of money! :D

[Phantom_ZA]

Purchasing a 360 is not a problem. However, a decent display is.

[vii]

Im planning on using my 19" LCD(which cost more than a 360) lol! But it has a 2ms refresh rate, so i think it would look pretty damn good. What do you guys think? Think it would work well?

[Phantom_ZA]

Definitely. Remember, you'll also need the xbox vga cable.
I plan on playing on this.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/1477758114_5ddb05e4b3.jpg

[vii]

I plan to use this beauty... Its 19" but its not widescreen... would that be a problem, or can i play on a normal size screen?
Oh and one more thing, can I plug my normal desktop speakers into the 360?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/57/184159062_297e4420fe_o.jpg

[Phantom_ZA]

Yes the official microsoft vga cable comes bundled with a sound jack that you can plug straight into your subwoofer. Your monitor won't be a problem either as the xbox 360 supports 1280x1024.

[vii]

What do 360's cost atm? I need a cheap one! And what does the cable to connect to the monitor cost, and is it readily available?

[Vexo]

Start here
https://www.take2.co.za/
http://www.kalahari.net/default.aspx

[Phantom_ZA]

The xbox 360 arcade is the cheapest version however, the arcade package contains everything one would need, as long as you're not going to be frequenting xbox live. It come bundled with a 256mb memory card which proves abundant for game saves, however it isn't convenient if you're planning on downloading multiple arcade games and game content. It's an excellent deal for only R1999 (http://www.take2.co.za/games-xbox-360-console-arcade-3170850.html).

[vii]

Well, I'm planning on using it at uni, and i dont have broadband here that isnt firewalled. So i wont be going on Live at all. I just want a nice old fashioned offline console... Would the arcade suffice for that purpose? Also, what do games cost for the 360? Im not buying a console where the games cost 50% of the consoles price. And controllers, does the arcade have a wired or wireless? And do i really need a hdd? Whats the use of a hdd?

[Azimuth]

Game prices vary dramatically, for no reason that I can identify. :/ But they're generally in the range of R450-R550, with some few titles (GTA4, for example) coming in at a rather unreasonable R699 or so. Having said that, BT Games' rental and secondhand games are your new best friends. Also, come on, man. Get off your arse and find some information for yourself. Start here (http://www.btgames.co.za).

The VGA cable costs somewhere around R300 or so, and is widely available. You can buy one anywhere that sells Xbox accessories, including major retailers like Look & Listen.

The HDD is - surprise! - for storing content. If you're not going to use Live, forget about it.

[Phantom_ZA]

It would really be a treat if we could acquire a local xbox live server in the near future.

[Azimuth]

Okay, seriously, for once and for all.

South African gamers can play on Xbox Live without any problems. I use iBurst (wireless! It's supposed to suck goat nadgers!) for gaming on Xbox Live, and have a good connection with no discernible lag or glitching problems. I play CoD 4 and Halo 3 with the internationals several times a week.

Don't let the lack of local servers hold you back. Xbox Live is the best way to game online.

[george]

On Friday I signed up for the BTGames Games Unlimited thing. Definitely the cheapest way to game. Decided on the R99 per month option (one game at a time for as long as you want, max 3 per month).

And creep, just buy the Arcade. The 256MB memory card is enough for the save games.