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Miktar
13-08-2007, 10:08 AM
1984 confirmed?

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1566725/20070809/pearl_jam.jhtml


Pearl Jam Wonder: Were Anti-Bush Comments Edited From Webcast Really An 'Error'?

Vedder's comments were only elements edited out of Lollapalooza webcast: 'This was not a censorship issue,' spokesperson for sponsor AT&T insists.
By Gil Kaufman

Before a crowd that stretched as far as the eye could see, Pearl Jam closed out Lollapalooza on Sunday night with a galvanizing two-hour set that also featured a guest spot from Ben Harper, appearances from an anti-war Iraq veteran and former NBA star Dennis Rodman ? and lyrics from Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2" slipped into "Daughter," during which singer Eddie Vedder altered the lyrics to, "George Bush: Leave this world alone!" (See "Pearl Jam Electrify; Amy Winehouse, Lupe Fiasco, Kings Of Leon Also Help Cap Lollapalooza.")

Oh, wait, you didn't hear that part?

Maybe you were watching the live "Blue Room" webcast of Lollapalooza beamed out by main Lollapalooza sponsor AT&T. According to the band and a number of its fans, PJ were informed after the show that some segments of their performance were missing from the AT&T broadcast ? namely the anti-Bush statements, which led them to suspect that the broadcast may have been censored by AT&T.

"We responded on the site to our fans because they sent in multiple inquiries asking about the webcast being cut," longtime PJ spokesperson Nicole Vandenberg said about the post on PJ's official Web site on Wednesday responding to the controversy. "We were told via Lollapalooza, who spoke to AT&T, that it was the result of an overzealous content engineer who made a mistake. But ... I think the bigger question here is this: What is AT&T doing to ensure that 'mistakes' like this don't happen in the future?

"We aren't talking about them editing the word 'f---' out," Vandenberg continued, after acknowledging that mistakes often happen during such high-pressure, live events. "We're talking about them editing out content in a song that referenced the president. I'm curious as to why this content monitor thought that might concern them? I'm interested in knowing whether AT&T thinks this is the only 'content monitor' who will ever make a mistake of this nature?"

The other line cut from the webcast was, "George Bush: Find yourself another home."

Steve Schwadron, a spokesperson for AT&T, told MTV News on Thursday that the editing of the performance was not intentional and was "a mistake by one of our webcast vendors." Adam Smith ? executive vice president of the vendor, music-consulting firm Davey Brown Entertainment, which produced the webcast for AT&T ? also said the edit was an unintended error. "It was a mistake," Smith said. "Our policy is not to edit any performance at all ? never, ever. We take responsibility for the mistake."

Though nothing else was edited out of the broadcast, Smith said he was not able to explain why the only edits happened to be the two anti-Bush statements. Brown Entertainment was in control of the standard two-minute delay AT&T requires for the non-age-restricted Blue Room broadcasts.

"We completely regret this mistake by an individual who was subcontracted by AT&T," Schwadron said. "It is not part of our policy and I can't tell you what that person was thinking. This was not a censorship issue ? it was a mistake that is completely against our policy and it was a solitary incident not tied to any larger theme. We completely disagree with what took place."

Schwadron said AT&T is working with PJ to post the song in its entirety soon.

Fans responding on the group's message boards were angry and confused. "I thought it was a glitch on the webcast (which is common), not censorship," wrote a user named Marie Curie. "Scott" wrote that he unplugged his speakers to fix the problem, which he thought had to do with his virus-riddled computer.

However, it was no surprise to "Mr Bungle," who wrote that, "My wife and I called it right away, as soon as Ed started bashing Bush, the audio cut out. It was so obvious it was being censored."

In their post on the controversy, the band wrote, "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

"If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance ? not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations ? fans have little choice but to watch the censored version," the post continues. "What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."

A report on the controversy on the left-leaning Huffington Post blog took a harsher view of the incident, tying the subcontractor error to a larger theme of what it claimed was AT&T's history of bad faith with its customers when it comes to issues like handing over private phone records and speaking out against the concept of Net neutrality, which proponents say will guarantee the freedom of Internet content from manipulation by the large companies that supply Internet connections.

Pearl Jam has promised to post the complete, unedited Lollapalooza version of "Daughter" on their Web site soon and has promised to work harder in the future to ensure that their live broadcasts/webcasts are free from "arbitrary" edits.

"I don't see this as a fight," said Vandenberg. "I see it as an opportunity for AT&T to take steps to ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen, and for the public to see how easily it can happen ... it's really just an unfortunate incident that occurred, that happens to reflect the issues at the heart of the debate around Net neutrality and media consolidation in general."

Miktar
13-08-2007, 10:09 AM
Some more stuff from pearl jam web site.


MIKE MCCREADY WEIGHS IN ON AT&T WEBCAST
08.11.07

Thoughts of an American.

I grew up in a democratic system of government. This is what was taught all through Kindergarten through College. Freedom of thought and expression were hallmarks of my early education. These concepts and theories integrated my belief in an American system of democracy. Consequently, I became a musician because of these inalienable rights. Make no mistake I am an artist and a capitalist because of this system that I believe in and our country. I don't however believe that a capitalist corporation such as AT&T has the right to subvert the first amendment of the constitution to which we all are accountable. This happened on the night we played Lollapalooza. I was dismayed to hear that the act of censoring free speech was used to edit our song Daughter for a webcast. Surely the American listening public can discern for themselves what they deem acceptable to hear. This is a hallmark of our American way!! The freedom to listen to what you want or don't want to. The American public was duped as was I in believing that I can speak freely without censorship.

I can only look to historical figures who are above reproach in my mind, such as Thomas Jefferson "I hope we shall crush...in it's birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." I feel that corporations can still exist without worry of a few words at a rock concert and need not trample upon our constitution for the sake of profit.

Another example that I believe is relevant is a George Orwell quote from Animal Farm. "If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." Some people don't want to hear our political beliefs in a song but that too is the beauty of America. WE CAN DISAGREE and still function as a democracy. When one person or company decides what others can hear, that is totalitarian thinking! This runs contrary to America and threatens the core of our freedom. We can think for ourselves, AT&T. I had the great pleasure of seeing the Space Shuttle launch live in Florida today. This gave me a feeling of excitement and patriotism in my country today.It showed me a future of ingenuity and promise for a better America.

With that I will leave you with a last quote from the quintessential American "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." This is an example of my belief in what Ed was saying the night we were censored during Daughter. You can't get more American than Mark Twain!!! Say no to censorship, it leads to dictatorship!

Mike McCready


LOLLAPALOOZA WEBCAST: SPONSORED/CENSORED BY AT&T?
08.08.07

After concluding our Sunday night show at Lollapalooza, fans informed us that portions of that performance were missing and may have been censored by AT&T during the "Blue Room" Live Lollapalooza Webcast.

When asked about the missing performance, AT&T informed Lollapalooza that portions of the show were in fact missing from the webcast, and that their content monitor had made a mistake in cutting them.

During the performance of "Daughter" the following lyrics were sung to the tune of Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall" but were cut from the webcast:

- "George Bush, leave this world alone." (the second time it was sung); and

- "George Bush find yourself another home."

This, of course, troubles us as artists but also as citizens concerned with the issue of censorship and the increasingly consolidated control of the media.

AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

Aspects of censorship, consolidation, and preferential treatment of the internet are now being debated under the umbrella of "NetNeutrality." Check out The Future of Music or Save the Internet for more information on this issue.

Most telecommunications companies oppose "net neutrality" and argue that the public can trust them not to censor..

Even the ex-head of AT&T, CEO Edward Whitacre, whose company sponsored our troubled webcast, stated just last March that fears his company and other big network providers would block traffic on their networks are overblown..

"Any provider that blocks access to content is inviting customers to find another provider." (Marguerite Reardon, Staff Writer, CNET News.com Published: March 21, 2006, 2:23 PM PST).

But what if there is only one provider from which to choose?

If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance -not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations - fans have little choice but to watch the censored version.

What happened to us this weekend was a wake up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band.

The complete version of "Daughter" from the Lollapalooza performance is posted below for any of you who missed it. We apologize to our fans who were watching the webcast and got shortchanged. In the future, we will work even harder to ensure that our live broadcasts or webcasts are free from arbitrary edits.

If you have examples of AT&T censoring artist performances around political content, it's a good thing for everyone to know about. Feel free to post examples on the official Pearl Jam Message Pit.

wisp
13-08-2007, 10:29 AM
one would think that in the Land of The Free and the home of the Brave censorship would not be tolerated. What with homeland security and Bush paranonia Americans are being slowly deprived of the thing they hold so dear namely their Freedom.

From the little bit of news that i see it seems like Bush is so one minded that he is not listening to ppl.They want their troops out of the middle east , but Bush could care less . it all boils down to money and how much the American Conglomarates are making out of re building after Saddam.

it seems that the more freedom a ppl have , the more the powers that rule will try to do all they can to curb those freedoms ,all be it in the smallest way.

It seems Bush can't take the fact that a large amount of ppl are not happy with the way he is running the country, and i can't say i blame them. America always likes to stick it's nose in other coutries affairs and doesn't learn a lesson even when it gets it's ass kicked and i think the american ppl are sick of their children dying in forgein countries just to protect "american Interests". If the middle east had no oil Bush wouldn't give a damn.

Azimuth
13-08-2007, 10:57 AM
Though nothing else was edited out of the broadcast, Smith said he was not able to explain why the only edits happened to be the two anti-Bush statements.

What a crock of ****. How stupid do they think we are?

Squirly
13-08-2007, 12:26 PM
Very stupid? But what do you expect? To be fair, they did say that AT&T sub-contracted the editing of the song and it could very well have been a Bush supporter who did the edit without anybody's consent :)

It could be, but then this isn't the first time I've heard of people being shut up for criticizing Bush. It's not like they're going all police-state but things are definitely not all rosy. What I don't get is the point, though. Bush is out next year, his ratings are in the toilet, he's the most hated president since Nixon. What difference does censoring a few statements do? Especially now?

Azimuth
13-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Very stupid? But what do you expect? To be fair, they did say that AT&T sub-contracted the editing of the song and it could very well have been a Bush supporter who did the edit without anybody's consent :)


No, my point is that AT&T are insisting this was some sort of - omg, whooopsy! - mistake, instead of simply owning up and admitting that some twit decided to censor the broadcast. All this prevarication is insulting.

MrDeVil_909
13-08-2007, 08:35 PM
I'm amazed that anyone is editing Anti-Bush comments anymore. According to opinion polls his own mother doesn't like him. It isn't like the time the Dixie Chicks were crucified in public.