Best First Person Shooter ever?

[Stoffel]

What do you think is the best FPS game ever?!

To me the candidates are: Half Life or Half Life 2 (they both rocked), far cry, STALKER...
Online FPS games? like BF2, counter strike.

But my vote for the best FPS ever goes to FEAR... it Rocked!!! the graphics were awsome and the storyline gripped me.

but will crysis take the crown? what do you people think?

[Magon]

I would go for either HL2, UT2004 or Quake 2, but contenders for the crown, I think theres way more than just Crysis. Theres Left4Dead, CoD4, UT3, Halo 3, Blacksite: Area51, Bioshock, MoH: Airborne, Battlefield: Bad Company.

[kHayne]

Doom.

The original and best.

[Etienne]

Duke Nukem 3D.

End of discussion.

[Kensei]

Toss up between UT2k4, Half-life 2 and the original Half-Life

FEAR had some good ideas but it was not ZOMG Hall of Fame!
EDIT: Not that UT2k4 was for most people

[dINGLE]

I say HL since it presented everything so well, was fun, technologically great, and was long too

Not everyone has played DOOM the original ...

[kHayne]

Their loss. Just because not everyone watched Citizen Kane, does not disqualify it from being the greatest film of all time either.

[Antharias]

Never played the original Doom further than exiting the first building so I cannot tell you.

IMO, Deus Ex takes the crown. Gripping story, novel concepts (afaik) and just generally brilliant. Graphics as well were brilliant at the time.

[CaptainCrunch]

Doom (the original...where it all began for me)
Quake (first real 3D fps, scary too)
Duke Nukem 3D (humour and fun gameplay)
Half-Life (ai and story)

[DeMoN]

FarCry
HL2
HL Opposing Forces (Best FPS expansion ever)

[EP1]

Far Cry, excellent game, plot was simplistic but awesome gameplay
HL1 and 2 brilliant, eventually as a whole when all parts are released it might sit right on top of the pile.

Crysis - amazing visuals hopefully this will be backed up by a great storyline.

Bioshock looks like it could have the makings of a king of the FPS roost but time will tell.

[ReinHer]

HL2, Far cry and Quake 3. Those are my votes

[Vexo]

Yip FEAR.
The game play the graphics the story everything rocked!

[Mic]

for me its a close (very)... so many.... if I would list I would list all of my FPS that I own... so I think somewhere between halo ce and counter-strike.... but online is halo ce and BFV... so my best online and LAN FPS of all time would be.... halo... just... well... play it and you'll understand

[Stoffel]

Duke Nukem 3D.

End of discussion.

Yeah, I remember that game... I played it when I was a small kid.

[Plan 9]

Doom original imho, but I also think HL2 is good. Far Cry and FEAR are nice but they're not so "legendary" i'd say :p

[Etienne]

You guys must be young :\ Too many mentions of FEAR and Halo and Half Life here.

Mention the classics, people! The classics!

[R4mzy]

Duke Nukem 3D.

End of discussion.

That was the first game my parents bought for me, back when I was a wee gamer kiddie. 'Twas awesome.

My favourites:
Half-Life 1/2 and the expansions
Brothers in Arms
Call of Duty 1/2
Battlefield 2
And, of course, Duke Nukem 3D

@ Etienne: HL is a classic. If you disagree, please die. Thank you.

[dangarratt]

Half Life, far and away - it was GROUND-BREAKING. A cinematic experience - like the feeling of Die Hard but in a game (right man in the wrong place).
Doom was also ground-breaking, but technically. It wasn't a great game!

[wir]

Half Life 1-2
Doom
Quake

[echo]

Half-lIfe 1.

[wisp]

the one , the only ,Doom

[Toi]

Ok I'm sorry, don't take this the wrong way guys but I disagree with everyone that says that Doom is the best FPS ever. It sucked, horribly. The only reason you guys liked it was because there wasn't really anything else at the time. Yeah at the time maybe yes, but surely not now. I bet you most of you are too young to remember the game anyway. And you only played it a few years after release and only mention it because it's a cult classis but you didn't really like it did you?

I'm not suggesting comparing Doom to something new and recent, that would be silly and anyone that does make that comparison deserves a RFS. So at the time it was good\okish but not great. But alas, to each his own right.

Maybe it's just me but I didn't enjoy playing Doom back then. Maybe I needed something more to keep me glued to the screen I don't know.

Anyway, the most fum I've ever had playing a FPS was in HL2. So that's mine, HL2.

[Cleric]

Quake 1. 1st multiplayer game I ever played, and couldn't stop playing it. Loved the co-op mode as well.

And my all time fave... HALF LIFE 1. The marines in that were awesome, and the set pieces were perfect. Loved HL2 as well, but still prefer HL1 (has anyone played HL1: source? how is it?)

[Petruz]

FEAR!!!!!And of course the expansion.
And best multiplayer fps CSS!!!

[echo]

Quake 1. 1st multiplayer game I ever played, and couldn't stop playing it. Loved the co-op mode as well.

And my all time fave... HALF LIFE 1. The marines in that were awesome, and the set pieces were perfect. Loved HL2 as well, but still prefer HL1 (has anyone played HL1: source? how is it?)

Exactly the same as the original, just with pretty water. Can't wait for Black Mesa source.

[kHayne]

Haha. HAHAHA!
The chump with the res.evil ava fails at gaming.
Srsly, how old are you?
Anyone who votes HL2 as best fps evar needs their gaming license revoked. I take ye about as seriously as Manto on the Aids.

[Etienne]

kHayne: Agreed. These kids don't know what they are talking about. They probably think Oblivion is better than Fallout. :\

[Miktar]

Maze War
3-Demon
Dungeons of Daggorath

Catacomb 3D

[Darkmag]

They probably think Oblivion is better than Fallout. :\

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did you just state your opinion as a fact? so you think fallout is better than oblivion, other peoples opinion will differ, it doesn`t make them wrong.

when HL came out it totaly changed FPS gaming so HL was for me the best

[kHayne]

The problem is we have people who first formed their opinions on 'best evar' of 'x/y/z' based on a title a couple years old (at best) because they're young and did not, in fact, have prior great experiences to compare and base their judgements on. And then we have guys playing games for a decade or two who have.

Some people DID play Wolf3d AND Doom AND HL AND HL2 etc etc. Their opinions are probably worth more than the 17 year old kid who picked up HL2 and thought it was the best thing ever. Of course if that kid then goes and plays an old game like Doom1 he's gonna think it's garbage because he never played it in the context it was meant to be played.
Best evar is relative. But some things are more relative than others.
/salute Einstein.

[brazed]

Half Life 1-2
Doom
Quake

QFE

45678910

[Etienne]

Hear hear kHayne. Well said.

[Gammaray]

You guys must be young :\ Too many mentions of FEAR and Halo and Half Life here.

Mention the classics, people! The classics!

Quake2, Heretic, Hexen, Duke Nukem 3D, Blood, Doom2, Wolfenstein, Redneck Rampage, Rise of the Triad !!! Woot.

[Etienne]

Rise of the Triad :D Awesome choice.

[Darkmag]

@ kHayne I agree, but thats life. These top 100 lists you see most of the voters haven`t played the games that revolutionised the genre. which sucks for them. Cuase nothing better than experiencing something new its like kissing girl for the first all over agian.

Catacomb Abyss(was 1st fps)-> Wolfenstien 3d-> Quake -> Half-life -> UT/Q3 (and opfully) -> Bio shock

^each one brought something NEW to the genre. but HL brought many things to the genre

[Miktar]

@ kHayne I agree, but thats life. These top 100 lists you see most of the voters haven`t played the games that revolutionised the genre. which sucks for them. Cuase nothing better than experiencing something new its like kissing girl for the first all over agian.

Catacomb Abyss(was 1st fps)-> Wolfenstien 3d-> Quake -> Half-life -> UT/Q3 (and opfully) -> Bio shock

^each one brought something NEW to the genre. but HL brought many things to the genre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter


Beginnings

It is not clear exactly when the first FPS was created. There are two claimants, Spasim and Maze War. The uncertainty about which was first stems from the lack of any accurate dates for the development of Maze War ? even its developer cannot remember exactly. In contrast, the development of Spasim is much better documented and the dates more certain.

The initial development of Maze War probably occurred in the summer of 1973. A single player made their way through a simple maze of corridors rendered using fixed perspective. Multiplayer capabilities, with players attempting to shoot each other, were probably added later in 1973 (two machines linked via a serial connection) and in the summer of 1974 (fully networked).

Spasim was originally developed in the spring of 1974. Players moved through a wire-frame 3D universe, with gameplay resembling the 2D game Empire. Graphically, Spasim lacked even hidden line removal, but did feature online multiplayer over the world-wide university-based PLATO network. Another notable PLATO FPS was the tank game Panther, introduced in 1975.


1979-1990: Arcades and home computers
Rescue on Fractalus! (Atari 5200)
Rescue on Fractalus! (Atari 5200)
3-Demon (IBM PC)
3-Demon (IBM PC)
Dungeons of Daggorath (TRS-80 Color Computer)
Dungeons of Daggorath (TRS-80 Color Computer)
MIDI Maze (Atari ST)
MIDI Maze (Atari ST)

The next significant games arrived in the video arcade boom of the late 1970s. The 1979 game Tail Gunner was the first commercial shooter game to provide a first-person perspective. Players could not move through the simulated world, but fought off opponents from a fixed point in space.

1980s Battlezone, a tank combat simulator reminiscent of Panther, allowed players to move around the game world in their battle with computer-controlled enemies, and thus became the earliest widely-available first-person shooter in arcades. It was a resounding commercial success.

In the early 1980s, the home computer market grew rapidly. While these machines were relatively low-powered, limited first-person-perspective games appeared early on. Star Raiders (1979) gave the player the perspective of a spaceship pilot flying through a streaming 3D starfield; motion was unrestricted, but the environment consisted only of stars and individual moving objects, with no 3D scene rendering at each individual frame. 3D Monster Maze (1981) for the Sinclair ZX81 was the first truly 3D first-person adventure game on a home computer, although not a shooter. Dungeons of Daggorath and Phantom Slayer (1982) restricted the player to 90-degree turns, allowing "3D" corridors to be drawn with simple fixed-perspective techniques. In these games, computer-controlled opponents were drawn using bitmaps. 3D Deathchase (1983) on the ZX Spectrum featured a 3D shooter chase through a forest, with the 3D being created using drawings of trees getting larger as they moved closer to the player. Similar to Phantom Slayer, the 1983 game 3-Demon was a 3D version of Pac-Man for the IBM PC situating the player first-person inside the PacMan maze.

Numerous other "tricks" were used by programmers to simulate 3D graphics. Examples include two early games from Lucasarts, Rescue on Fractalus! (1984) which used fractal techniques to generate an alien landscape for the player to fly over, and The Eidolon (1985) which scaled simple bitmaps to create the illusion of 3D. Other good examples of 8-bit first-person 3D games are Pete Cooke's ZX Spectrum titles Tau Ceti (1985) and Micronaut One (1987), the former having a 3D planetary environment and the latter involving the player's ship traveling through wireframe tunnels.

Later in the decade, the arrival of a new generation of home computers such as the Atari ST and the Amiga increased the computing power and graphical capabilities available, leading to a new wave of innovation.

Although it lacked numerous modern graphical features including textures, varying colors, and the use of special shading techniques to simulate curved polygons, the first first-person shooter to offer true-3D filled-polygon graphics was the single-player Driller, released in 1987, which used the acclaimed Freescape engine. Other FPS games of the flat-polygon era include Faceball 2000, The Colony, and MIDI Maze, the latter notable for its networked multiplayer feature (communicating via the computer's MIDI interface).

[Toi]

Haha. HAHAHA!
The chump with the res.evil ava fails at gaming.
Srsly, how old are you?
Anyone who votes HL2 as best fps evar needs their gaming license revoked. I take ye about as seriously as Manto on the Aids.

I was actually expecting you to be the first to comment on my opinion. Kind of predictable really, so I'll take you as serious as a Hilary Duff movie then, agreed?
Listen, in the end it's my opinion, if you don't like it.......fine, get over it already or did I completely shatter you're perception of what a "hardcore" gamer is. Hate to break it to you but they don't exsist chump.


kHayne: Agreed. These kids don't know what they are talking about. They probably think Oblivion is better than Fallout. :\

And, so what if I think it's better?

You call yourself gamers but you're still living in the past......chumps. :\

[Darkmag]

you learn something new everday

@ Miktar a link would have done

[Miktar]

you learn something new everday

@ Miktar a link would have done

For some people yes, for some people no. Most people don't follow links I post, so I tend to quote bits from it just in case.

[kHayne]

@dm:
@ kHayne I agree, but thats life. These top 100 lists you see most of the voters haven`t played the games that revolutionised the genre. which sucks for them. Cuase nothing better than experiencing something new its like kissing girl for the first all over agian.

Then the issue is, "Best FPS of Your Generation" rather than "All time". You cannot exclude some nominees because some consumers balls have yet to fully drop. It's like, we don't want to know the best movie of this decade so far, rather the best movie ever made, so obviously the likes of Casablanca and Godfather 3 should be factored in the lineup - and as soon as they are, everything recent pales in comparison. It's quite elementary really.

@leon:
in the end it's my opinion
Everyone has opinions, but the thing with opinions is that they're not all equal in value. It's why reviewers and critics have jobs after all.

p.s. -10 and fail for reusing my flame material. Grow some originality.

[Miktar]

Oh, c'mon.

"Best FPS Ever" was your first indicator this thread was going to be made of fail.

I'm surprised people bothered with it.

When someone says "Best Ever" it usually translates to:

"I think Game X is awesome, what do you think?"

"Best Ever" is impossible. Ever hasn't happened yet.

[wisp]

Ok I'm sorry, don't take this the wrong way guys but I disagree with everyone that says that Doom is the best FPS ever. It sucked, horribly. The only reason you guys liked it was because there wasn't really anything else at the time. Yeah at the time maybe yes, but surely not now. I bet you most of you are too young to remember the game anyway. And you only played it a few years after release and only mention it because it's a cult classis but you didn't really like it did you?

I'm not suggesting comparing Doom to something new and recent, that would be silly and anyone that does make that comparison deserves a RFS. So at the time it was good\okish but not great. But alas, to each his own right.

Maybe it's just me but I didn't enjoy playing Doom back then. Maybe I needed something more to keep me glued to the screen I don't know.

Anyway, the most fum I've ever had playing a FPS was in HL2. So that's mine, HL2.

You didn't like Doom :eek: wisp is now very sad :( But alas each to his own :rolleyes:

[kHayne]

"Best FPS Ever" was your first indicator this thread was going to be made of fail.
..
"Best Ever" is impossible. Ever hasn't happened yet.
Well yes.
However, we can have a 'Best thus far', I guess, which is where I went with this thread.

Meh, conceded that a lot of it is subjective. Some would think Matrix 1 is the best scifi movie of all time. I'm of the type that would consider them inexperienced , young and naive for not having 2001 or Bladerunner listed at #1 instead.
Maybe I'm just old and cranky.

[Toi]

When someone says "Best Ever" it usually translates to:

"I think Game X is awesome, what do you think?"


QFT.

It should have read "What's you're favorite FPS" or something.

These threads are ok, the problem is just that some people *wink* *wink* can't take the fact that peoples opinions differ. If someone says to me that he thinks HL2 sucks *wink* *wink* it wouldn't bother me at all. Diffirent enviroments, upbringings, mood, time etc all these things factor whether person A will find the same enjoyment in game X as person B.

Why are people so protective about these things, you tell a guy that the Xbox sucks and he just snaps, why?


Edit: the *wink* *wink* was meant light hearted.

[Toi]

Maybe I'm just old and cranky.

Nah, it's just that people are diffirent and always believe that they are right, knows the most, are the fastest etc.

Besides, I was just stirred up the wrong way this morning by some "dude"

Much love, respect.

[wisp]

QFT.

It should have read "What's you're favorite FPS" or something.

These threads are ok, the problem is just that some people *wink* *wink* can't take the fact that peoples opinions differ. If someone says to me that he thinks HL2 sucks *wink* *wink* it wouldn't bother me at all. Diffirent enviroments, upbringings, mood, time etc all these things factor whether person A will find the same enjoyment in game X as person B.

Why are people so protective about these things, you tell a guy that the Xbox sucks and he just snaps, why?


no offence meant , just i always think of Doom as the game that got me started in gaming thats all. again no offence intended :)

[Miktar]

Well yes.
However, we can have a 'Best thus far', I guess, which is where I went with this thread.

Meh, conceded that a lot of it is subjective. Some would think Matrix 1 is the best scifi movie of all time. I'm of the type that would consider them inexperienced , young and naive for not having 2001 or Bladerunner listed at #1 instead.
Maybe I'm just old and cranky.

Excuse me, but Total Recall is the best Sci-Fi movie ever. ;) I had a link that explained why, but I can't find it now. It made a really good case for it.

(But yes, Bladerunner is tops).

[Toi]

@ Wisp: None taken. ;)

You love Doom and that's great.

Boejakasha!!!!!!

[Azimuth]

RoboCop would eat Rick Deckard for breakfast.

[Miktar]

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/total-recall/default.php

And that, is why Total Recall is the best sci-fi ever.

[cYn]

I still think very fondly of Quake2 because it was the first FPS I got to play online(dial up). It had a great community back then. Great mods(Happy Fun Hook, Runes) and the flawed engine actually made the game more fun. With (actual)strafe jumping, double jumps(off of the edges of crates etc) and fantastic rocket jumping. I still favour the rocket launcher over the other weapons in UT2K4 and Quake 4 because of Quake 2.

I'm not saying it's the best FPS, just the one I have the best memories of. I enjoyed Wolf3d, Doom, Duke Nukem, HL, HL2 etc. as much as the next guy. Can't say that I was overly enamored with the Quake 3 engine. Quake 4 reminds me more of the Quake 2 engine, so I'd pick that over Quake 3 any day, not the single player engine obviously.

[sneaK]

I personally love Duke Nukem 3D - possibly because it was the first game I ever received...
Forever Duke! :)

[Stoffel]

Oh, c'mon.

"Best FPS Ever" was your first indicator this thread was going to be made of fail.

I'm surprised people bothered with it.

When someone says "Best Ever" it usually translates to:

"I think Game X is awesome, what do you think?"

"Best Ever" is impossible. Ever hasn't happened yet.

Ok, so I could have put it better... why not : The FPS game that you thought brought the most new stuff into the genre, what FPS gave the genre the biggest leap forward... what FPS was the best in its time. Sure one cant compare FEAR with the original DOOM in terms of graphics and so on... but how exited did that game make you when you first play and base your choise on that.

[Stoffel]

have anyone seen how many FPS games's storyline is based on the same thing?... Like allot of these games are based on some sort of experiment that went wrong. Games like FEAR, far cry, half life, doom... thay all have this basic 'experiment went bad and now everyone suffers' storyline... but I love it! and I hape theres more.

[Flint]

I can't believe no-one has mentioned the original Unreal and Alien versus Predator.
-Unreal was such an epic experience, and had such incredible use of music and sound which just gave it atmosphere the graphics alone couldn't possibly achieve. I loved every second of that game.
-AvP was another one that had atmosphere so thick it dripped off the screen. The three races played so incredibly differently but were all challenging and fun in their own ways.

[Necropilise]

Battlefield 2142 dah where u ppl from and doom is kul but overated and overplayed

[0blivios]

I can't believe no-one has mentioned the original Unreal and Alien versus Predator.
-Unreal was such an epic experience, and had such incredible use of music and sound which just gave it atmosphere the graphics alone couldn't possibly achieve. I loved every second of that game.
-AvP was another one that had atmosphere so thick it dripped off the screen. The three races played so incredibly differently but were all challenging and fun in their own ways.

Flint you read my mind , iv never actually really bought FPS ( I have BF 2152 ,but i doesnt work) but i have borrowed unreal 2 from a friend. sure i was only 10 and i did suck, but gz that game scared the @#$# out of me!

[dangarratt]

The problem is we have people who first formed their opinions on 'best evar' of 'x/y/z' based on a title a couple years old (at best) because they're young and did not, in fact, have prior great experiences to compare and base their judgements on. And then we have guys playing games for a decade or two who have.

Some people DID play Wolf3d AND Doom AND HL AND HL2 etc etc. Their opinions are probably worth more than the 17 year old kid who picked up HL2 and thought it was the best thing ever. Of course if that kid then goes and plays an old game like Doom1 he's gonna think it's garbage because he never played it in the context it was meant to be played.
Best evar is relative. But some things are more relative than others.
/salute Einstein.

Agreed. However, that doesn't mean you can't state that HL2 is the best FPS - it is SUPERB, whether you, like me, have been playing games since the days when the Spectrum ruled (damn tape recorders!), or you've only been playing for a few years.
Remember that nostalgia also clouds the views of the Ancient Wise Men.....
Too many of sit around saying how great gaming was back in the day - there are actually very few games that have truly stood the test of time (i.e. ones that you can actually enjoy playing now, or even ones that would be worth remaking with shinier graphics).

[GeometriX]

While it may be impossible to name the best FPS, like, totally, evar, I hereby declare Quake 1 to be the best FPS ever.... so far:

1) +mlook
2) an axe - 'nuff said
3) Gibbing - and lots of it. Poly-based stuff too, how awesome ?!?
4) Grenades - that bounced, and exploded things!
5) Co-op (z0mg!)
6) Nailgun - I mean, come on.

[Miktar]

", that doesn't mean you can't state that HL2 is the best FPS"

YES, IT DOES!

*facepalms*

IT CANNOT BE THE BEST, BECAUSE MANY FPS ARE AWESOME.

Really, do people not read threads anymore?

[Stoffel]

People may think this thread was piontless, but hey why did you post your opinion then?
Its interesting to see people's opnion and to see people argue about it. And im most surprised that so few people liked FEAR, to me it was an awsome game... it's review in the magazine got it a 92 score I think. But it also said that most people wont get whats it about... so forgive all of you(Joke).

[ReinHer]

I loved FEAR but if I had to choose just one FPS, just one! I'd choose HL2.

[dangarratt]

", that doesn't mean you can't state that HL2 is the best FPS"

YES, IT DOES!

*facepalms*

IT CANNOT BE THE BEST, BECAUSE MANY FPS ARE AWESOME.

Really, do people not read threads anymore?

Do people not read sentences anymore? I said that doesn't mean you can't state HL2 is the best, which implies those who think otherwise are free to state their disagreement....(of course, only if they like being wrong ;) )
*Unpalms Miktars face*