Your theory's/thoughts.

[Gambit]

Well put yours down and comment on others.

Two so far.

You know some people say that it seems like time seems to go by faster the older you get? Well I heard an explanation of this the other day which made quite a bit of sense:

If you have been alive for 10 Years and you turn 1 year older, years seem to go buy slower becuase you have only been alive for 10 years meaning adding one hear is about 10% of your entire life, so if you have been alive for 50 years the addition of 1 year would seem short in comparison to the amount of time you have been alive.

My second one is one I thought of myself, this might sound a bit funny though:

I have been noticing more and more girls driving around in "pimped" out cars. Now what I am about to say will sound weird but think about it. I would say most of these girls (90%) have not done up these cars with their own money (obviously) these are their boyfriends/husbands work. Now that is not very weird but have you ever thought why, well I think their boyfriend/husbands are subconsciously "marking" their woman as taken. If you think about it when you see a girl like that you automatically assume she is taken? Call me crazy.

[Repline]

@Gambit
:) This actually made me laugh.

Possible.. especially your second theory.

[Chevron]

Whenever I see a woman drive a 4x4 I think to myself "She's driving her husbands car".

I know why some people say *everyone* is special. If you think logically the only way someone can be special, is for other people to not be. So basically when they say that everyone is special, only the stupid (ie:not special) people believe it and they feel good about themselves. The people that see right through it(ie:special) just let it be, because they understand that not special people have feelings too.

[Repline]

Whenever I see a woman drive a 4x4 I think to myself "She's driving her husbands car".

I know why some people say *everyone* is special. If you think logically the only way someone can be special, is for other people to not be. So basically when they say that everyone is special, only the stupid (ie:not special) people believe it and they feel good about themselves. The people that see right through it(ie:special) just let it be, because they understand that not special people have feelings too.
And are you feeling special today Chevron?

[Azimuth]

Whenever I see a woman drive a 4x4 I think to myself "She's driving her husbands car".

And the coveted Sexist Pig trophy goes to Chevron. Congratulations, etc.

[Miktar]

Whoo boy. I love threads like these.

Here's my theory:

If you're over-thinking something, it's just like revving your car engine. Sure, you're making a lot of noise, but you're not really going anywhere.

Oh, wait - that's an analogy.

(btw: it's "Your theories/thoughts". Theory's is possessive, meaning, if you have a kid called Theory and you're talking about his leg, that would be "Theory's leg was broken".)

[Chevron]

And the coveted Sexist Pig trophy goes to Chevron. Congratulations, etc.

What's funny is that I knew you were gonna say that. I had actually typed something to that effect, but edited it out. That comment wasn't so bad. It just looks funny seeing a woman drive a masculine car.

[Azimuth]

A "masculine" car? Surely you jest. Pull your head out of the Dark Ages, Chevron. Srsly.

[Headshot]

Haha.
This thread is made of fail. Seriously.
Kill it with fire.

And Azimuth is ftw. :D

[Chevron]

A "masculine" car? Surely you jest. Pull your head out of the Dark Ages, Chevron. Srsly.

The connotations associated to 4x4's are masculine. If took the time from your bra burning you'd have noticed that. The point of a 4x4 is off road. Granted these days we get "soft" 4x4s, but the the point of them is for off road. Like going through the Kruger National park on safari. Now, without thinking, tell me what's the sex of the driver when that image first pops into your head.

[Kraken]

A mom I know down the road from me carts children to and from swimming lessons at her house. She drives a 4x4. :|

[Azimuth]

Oh, so because I challenge your patriarchal notions of, like, everything, I'm a bra burning feminist? Get a clue, Chevron. The only reason your silly head conjures up images of men in 4x4s is because you're been brought up to think that only butch men go on safari.

Hey, guess what. I've been off-road quad biking. And I still find time to make my hair look nice.

[Chevron]

My gf's mom drives her husbands 4x4, because her work is closer to home so they save petrol.


I mom down the road from me carts children to and from swimming lessons at her house. She drives a 4x4. :|


Now is it her car or does her husband let her borrow it so she can have enough space for all the kids?

[Kraken]

It's her car. If it is her husband's, then he doesn't get much use out of it, because she drives it everywhere all the time.

And it's *A mom I know
:[ *edits*


Edit: Actually, does it really ****ing matter? You seemed to have made up your mind about reality.

[Chevron]

If i'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

As long as people are using logic and not *screaming* I'll change my views.

I like learning new things everyday. :-)

[Miktar]

Now, without thinking, tell me what's the sex of the driver when that image first pops into your head.

To be brutally honest: that of a female Australian anthropomorphic platypus behind the wheel, leaning out the window slightly and shouting obscenities at the buffalo loitering in the way.

[Azimuth]

As any sensible person would.

[Gambit]

Thanks guy's thread closed.

@Azimuth - I was not aware that you are female. **** learn something new everyday, and no please don't call me a sexist for assuming you were a male. :)

[Toi]

Ha, I love gambit's theory about the pimped out cars. It does make men sound a little primitive though.

Well, all my theories are bible related so I'll just keep them to myself. Don't wanna start no flames no sir.

[Toi]

@Azimuth - I was not aware that you are female. **** learn something new everyday, and no please don't call me a sexist for assuming you were a male. :)


It was the purple tentacle wasn't it. Fooled me too.

[Gambit]

@Miktar - My bad. You do sound like an English teacher I once had though.

[Miktar]

Which is rather funny, considering English is not my first language and could even be considered a tertiary language.

What makes me special, is I care. ;)

[Chevron]

Which is rather funny, considering English is not my first language and could even be considered a tertiary language.


So what's your first language?
Afrikaans?

[Miktar]

Unfortunately, yes.

[Chevron]

Unfortunately, yes.

Dis nie 'n sleg die nie. Ek hou van Afrikaanse mense. Hoekom s? jy "unfortunately"?

[echo]

Miktar... afrikaans... lol. Ek het dit nooit geweet nie.

[Miktar]

This is an English forum, please stick to posting in English. (I need to remember to go add that to the Terms of Service).

I also refuse to answer anyone who speaks to me in Afrikaans.

[Chevron]

@ Miktar.

Are you ashamed that you are Afrikaans?

[Miktar]

This is a discussion I'm not having.

[Chevron]

Didn't mean to offend you. I was just curious.

[Miktar]

No offense taken - this is just a particular topic that I don't enjoy discussing.

[echo]

Sorry, won't do it again.

[Toi]

Miktar, no f'n way man. You’re a mystery if I’ve ever seen one. Ok, I won’t go on about it seeing that you don’t want too (even though the curiosity is killing me) ;-)

[CaptainCrunch]

I also refuse to answer anyone who speaks to me in Afrikaans.Sorry, but refusing to converse with ANYone who shares your first language is pathetic really.

[Gambit]

Let's do a quick poll:

First Language - Afrikaans/English

Me - Afrikaans

[Uncle Buck]

I'm a mixture. English on my dad's side (Irish/English mix) and Afrikaans on my mom' side.
English speaking though. I sound like a tool when I speak (or attempt) to speak Afrikaans. I can read and understand it perfectly, but cannot speak it well. Anyway...back to topic.

*People say life is sacred and precious, but it's not. People and animals drop like flies every day. Easy come, easy go.

*People should have a license to have chldren. (I'm serious)

[Chevron]

My 1st language is English, but both my Dad and GF are Afrikaans.

The reason my 1st lang is eng is because my mom is french. Both my parents understood eng so I'm eng.

[Chevron]

*People say life is sacred and precious, but it's not. People and animals drop like flies every day. Easy come, easy go.

You're right. It's funny that just because people are sentient it's such a big deal. There is no meaning to life. All creatures live to reproduce. Just because we evolved sentience doesn't mean there's a meaning to life.


*People should have a license to have chldren. (I'm serious)

Did you know that in western countries(eg.Australia,Canada,UK) the average amount of children parents have is around 2.5, but in Africa it's around 7.5.

No I don't have a link. Read it a while ago.

[Miktar]

Sorry, but refusing to converse with ANYone who shares your first language is pathetic really.

I never said I refuse to converse with anyone who shares my first language - I said I refuse to converse in that language, and that I won't reciprocate if anyone speaks to me in that language.

It is my choice, and how dare you call it pathetic. Who are you to dictate to me how I should live my life?

Frankly, you proposing the preposterous idea that just because I share some purely accidental similarity with someone, means I have some kind of required kinship with them, is the most laughable thing I've heard in my life.

I didn't make this personal, and I handled the situation with a reasonable amount of decorum.

Why am I not surprised that, after all that, you're the first to run in and throw the word 'pathetic' around.

That high horse isn't very high, when you cut it off at the legs, y'know.

[Toi]

Western countries have consoles, dark parts of Africa don't.
Console=birth control.
Go figure :-\

Here's a thought for you guys; strikes are bloody retarded!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Miktar]

Miktar, no f'n way man. You?re a mystery if I?ve ever seen one. Ok, I won?t go on about it seeing that you don?t want too (even though the curiosity is killing me) ;-)

It's simple really: I don't like the language. In the same way someone may listen to hip-hop, or look at an impressionist painting, or see a car in the colours of bright pink and go "Man, I just don't like that" - I simply do not like it.

The sound, the construction, the underlying lexicon as well as the tacit cultural byproducts... all of those facets are things that, when I look at them, are things that for some reason, only God knows why, that I do not like. They don't agree with me.

I try not to make a big deal out of it, but as CaptainCrunch just proved rather innocuously - people are somehow rather touchy about their language when you bring it up that you don't like their language, even if no harm is meant and no insult is given.

[Gambit]

Miktar - you should change your nic to "The Accidental Afrikaner"

[Ruandre]

First language: Afrikaans, Preferred language: English (American). I'm an English zealot. :)


It's simple really: I don't like the language. In the same way someone may listen to hip-hop, or look at an impressionist painting, or see a car in the colours of bright pink and go "Man, I just don't like that" - I simply do not like it.Same Here. *Link* (http://www.pcbuyersguide.co.za/showthread.php?t=3462&highlight=afrikaans&page=5)

[Miktar]

Miktar - you should change your nic to "The Accidental Afrikaner"

Perhaps, but the first thing I'd do is spell "Afrikaaner" correctly. :P

[Gambit]

That would be a good move, to avoid embarrassment.

[Chevron]

Preferred language: English (American).

I like English(UK). So much more colourful. :)

[Miktar]

First language: Afrikaans, Preferred language: English (American). I'm an English zealot. :)

Same Here. *Link* (http://www.pcbuyersguide.co.za/showthread.php?t=3462&highlight=afrikaans&page=5)

I love you.

[Repline]

First: Afrikaans

And i like the lanuage. If it is Miktar's wish, you guys should respect it. If he does not like his language its a matter of choice. And Im sure he did not mean anything rude or obscene by it.

Cheers Miktar, choice is choice.

[Miktar]

Eh - I don't mean to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I just couldn't find a way to really gracefully extract myself from the conversation once it came up, so I tried the direct approach - which seems to always manage to give certain people the wrong idea.

[Ruandre]

I love you.I love you too. :)

*I should probably get back on-topic though.

[Toi]

Look, I guess that I'm proud to be Afrikaans, I mean I'm not ashamed. There are certian elements & byproducts that I don't like about the language same as with English.
For example, I like how Afrikaans can just be such a warm and friendly way of communicating eg "Goeie dag tannie, gaan dit goed?". I have my likes and dislikes about English as well.

There's just so many misconceptions about "Afrikaaners" and "English" people. That Afrikaaners are retarted and drive V6's or that English people are rude bastards. In the end, I use both, hell, I even mix it up every now and then.

I hate it when I'm forced to speak perfect Afrikaans or English. My girlfriends Grandpa is like that. Everytime you say a English word he almost gets a heart attack, very proud ek se. I just want to express myself and if that requires me to say a word in any language other than the one you like, I will do exactly that.

What's this thread about again?

Oh ya, theories and thoughts.

Hmmmm, I have a theory that this forum is going to knock the socks off any other forum on the web. Why? Because it's got lost of love (wink wink Miktar & Ruandre).

[Kensei]

My first language is English (UK) but I can understand most Afrikaans.

I do speak a bit of Americanese, but won't attempt in front of Gldm and Miktar - I am sure they don't need me to embarass them (or me :P )

[Gambit]

Welcome Kensei, good to see the veterans move over to the new forums. I've even spotted Blackwolf moving about.

[Miktar]

There's just so many misconceptions about "Afrikaaners" and "English" people. That Afrikaaners are retarted and drive V6's or that English people are rude bastards.

I'm sorry, I can't help myself. I literally laughed so hard, water came out my nose.

[CaptainCrunch]

I said I refuse to converse in that language, and that I won't reciprocate if anyone speaks to me in that language.No, you said:
I also refuse to answer anyone who speaks to me in Afrikaans.This led me to believe that you would ignore anyone who speaks to you in Afrikaans, which would be pathetic.
Seeing as that's not the case, no problem.
I'll apologise for not understanding what you meant with that comment.

As for the rest of the accusations you felt necessary to throw my way...i don't care much for those, so you can keep them for someone more deserving.

[Toi]

@Miktar: It's only a pleasure, glad you liked it. ;)

[squishy]

Language battle!!!! Pikachu, ek kies vir jou!!!

[Miktar]

No, you said: This led me to believe that you would ignore anyone who speaks to you in Afrikaans, which would be pathetic.
Seeing as that's not the case, no problem.
I'll apologise for not understanding what you meant with that comment.

As for the rest of the accusations you felt necessary to throw my way...i don't care much for those, so you can keep them for someone more deserving.

You're right - refusing to answer someone is not ignoring them. I'm glad you understood what i was getting at. As for the rest of the accusations - if the shoe fits...

I don't want bad blood between us, but coming in guns blazing on a misconception you yourself admit to does make things complicated, don't you think?

Why don't you and I just start over. Hi, I'm Miktar, and sometimes I rub people the wrong way but really, I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood. :)

[wisp]

i am ex brit so English , but my better half is very afrikaans and well my afrikaans is better than her english so my "home" language is afrikaans.

back on topic..if you think that seeing a woman in 4 x 4 is only when she is driving her hubbies car...wrong,up here most of woman drive 4 x 4 because our roads are in such gr8 condition ..how ever in the dorps don't see why you guys need one except for hols or is it for mounting the pavements :rolleyes:

[squishy]

Mounting pavements and attacking stop signs! :P

[Uncle Buck]

Sometimes I love to hear Afrikaaners swear. I mean really go off. It just sounds so much more raw than in English, and thus it's more effective.

What I dig about Afrikaans kids is that they so much more polite and respectful than most English kids. A lot of English kids are little brats who think they know it all. That said, I hate it when a 20 year old calls me 'Oom.'

[wisp]

Sometimes I love to hear Afrikaaners swear. I mean really go off. It just sounds so much more raw than in English, and thus it's more effective.

What I dig about Afrikaans kids is that they so much more polite and respectful than most English kids. A lot of English kids are little brats who think they know it all. That said, I hate it when a 20 year old calls me 'Oom.'


my standard answer to that is ' do i look like am married to your auntie ' LOL :rolleyes:

[squishy]

Oom, I much prefer hearing Germans swear!! Now there's a show!

[Toi]

@Uncle Buck: How's about being 24 and called oom? Not fun I tell you. Or, dropping my brother off at school and then hearing that his dad drives a cool car.

I don't really mind, it's a sign of respect more than anything else.

[wisp]

Oom, I much prefer hearing Germans swear!! Now there's a show!

no what better is the Italians and Spanish , they can go off . Can't understand a word but it sounds so intense that you think that they were swearing each other blind meanwhile they are talking about the weather , emotional ppl they are
:)

[Chevron]

I'm 21 and have been called Oom before. Made me feel old, but I took it as a sign of respect.

[squishy]

At highschool every junior had to address the matrics as 'Sir...' I remember once being called sir at the beginning of grade 8 :D The good ol' days. *sigh*

[Uncle Buck]

In high school we had an English teacher straight from Cambridge who took us for reading comprehension. I forget what the book was called, but it was filled with Afrikaans phrases and words.

Honestly, we ****ed ouselves silly laughing at her struggling with the Afrikaans bits...I wonder if she actually understood a word of it. She soldiered on bravely though, ignoring the snickers and giggling from the class. She had a unique capacity to just block out the derision.

[CaptainCrunch]

You're right - refusing to answer someone is not ignoring them. I'm glad you understood what i was getting at. As for the rest of the accusations - if the shoe fits...

I don't want bad blood between us, but coming in guns blazing on a misconception you yourself admit to does make things complicated, don't you think?

Why don't you and I just start over. Hi, I'm Miktar, and sometimes I rub people the wrong way but really, I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood. :)
Nah, the shoe doesn't fit...
We don't always see eye to eye, but there's no bad blood.
I make a noise when i'm peeved enough, but sometimes people don't always get where i'm coming from and misconstrue my intentions.
The perils of text based communication i guess...

[Miktar]

Agreed. Water under the bridge then. :)

[ScArEcRoW]

I'm unfortunately in the same position as Toi in terms of theories (mine are mostly about my religion as well). I'll try and clear the cobwebs to find any oldies.

*edit*

Now I remeber. When I was three I asked this exact question (in the same form).

"Why do snakes not get poisoned by the venim when they bite prey and eat it?"

A veritifiable prodigy I was.

PS: If I could have a choice in languages in which I could converse, I would, without a doubt, pick Latin.

[PloPshoP]

If there is an exception to every rule, then every rule must have at least one exception, excepting this one.

[Chevron]

*NOTICE*
------------------------------------
If you've just noticed this notice,
you'll notice that this notice,
isn't worth noticing.

[Toi]

I believe that there is no such thing as "normal". In my opinion "normal" does not exist.

Debate and have fun.

[Miktar]

What's to debate? It's the truth - normal is a perception, entirely subjective. Not exactly rocket science.

[Toi]

I bet you someone will try and debate it, wait and see. A "friend" tried it once, was funny as hell.

[Miktar]

Welcome to the discovery that some people are very stupid. :P

[Toi]

What can I say; I had high hopes and a lot of faith in mankind until recently.

[PloPshoP]

What can I say; I had high hopes and a lot of faith in mankind until recently.

Please explain?

[Toi]

@PloPshoP: I recently saw a movie, can't recall the name at the moment. It stars Luke Wilson in the lead role, a comedy about how people with a lower IQ have more children than people with a higher one and how eventually the world is filled with retarts (just for you Mik ;) ) . As silly as it was it got me thinking, this will eventually happen. Not bacause people who have an lower IQ have more kids but because we're getting lazier each day.

We create systems that not only does everyday tasks for us but even does the thinking. I got so bloody lazy because of this that I can't even flippen spell anymore, I haven't touched a book in years, I've become what I've always feared. A zombie that just does, eats, thinks and feels whatever the media feeds it. Becoming exactly what I saw in that movie. So, I did what any man in my position whould do, I decided to make a change. Start reading some books, stop using a calculator for everything, converse in some proper conversation that doesn't involve boobs, rugby and beer (no offense to those who still enjoy those) and such.

Upon doing this however I realized how we have spiraled downwards through the centuries. Went from uncivilized cavemen to engineers, scientists and discoverers all the way back to uncivilized cavemen again.

Scary shuff I tell ya. Just take a look at the last 100 years as an example. God, people are having sex with animals people, that sounds to me like something that a caveman would do. Yes, it's probably been happening for centuries but now in some countries its like in, totaly cool to do so.

[Toi]

Another moerse setback for mankind in my opinion was the invention of Mxit. Have you seen the way kids write these days. "hi, i r stony, i lk 8 2 bugs 4 bre4kfast". My goodness, do you guys see where this is going, we are going to get to the point where we'll just stop talking, just make noises. Blah, blah,bluh,bluh ughhhh.

Oh my, we will become The Sims, pooping on floors and all.

[Miktar]

(The movie is : IDIOCRACY, and it is a documentary from the future).

[Gambit]

Another moerse setback for mankind in my opinion was the invention of Mxit. Have you seen the way kids write these days. "hi, i r stony, i lk 8 2 bugs 4 bre4kfast". My goodness, do you guys see where this is going, we are going to get to the point where we'll just stop talking, just make noises. Blah, blah,bluh,bluh ughhhh.

Oh my, we will become The Sims, pooping on floors and all.

I must say that I do agree with you 100% on the Mxit subject, my brother is so ****ing addicted to that **** it is not even funny. He is on it non-stop. I would be watching t.v. while he just sits typing away, his cellphone is the most important thing in existence to him. And it is not just him everyone seems to be using this. I know I love my gaming but my God I am not turning into a zombie!

[Miktar]

It's a little creepy to think of people who Mxit as 'zombies', since technically they /are/ socializing...

[Gambit]

True, it's just must my opinion that people are getting a bit obsessed with this, I mean how entertaining can this be.

[Miktar]

Depends on who you're talking to, I guess.

[PloPshoP]

Miktar - you should change your nic to "The Accidental Afrikaner"



Perhaps, but the first thing I'd do is spell "Afrikaaner" correctly. :P

Just want to point out that "Afrikaner" is correct. One "a" in a double "a" in the Afrikaans language is dropped upon inflection. Sorry, I'm just a stickler for **** like that.

I agree with the Mxit thing. Some kids have become obsessed with it (some adults I know too). However, I'm hardly one to judge, as I have been spending a lot of time on Facebook lately (especially since I've been on holiday for two months). I do feel that Facebook is a step above Mxit though, as people pay more attention to grammar and spelling and so on.

Let this discussion be an inspiration for NAGsters to not let their forum be inane (do I fail already?).

[Miktar]

Wow.

Then my higher-grade Afrikaans Matric exam was wrong.

And I got a distinction in HG Afr too.

[PloPshoP]

What can I say, eating a HAT was good fun.

[Miktar]

Eh?

(Don't follow)

[Garson007]

... Anyways, you know what language I'd love to be able to speak? Sign language. It's just such an awesome language completely made up out of body language.

As for the current degeneration of humanity... It's quite easy to see that media is bringing anarchy into society (and I know a lot of you love the media, for it is stimulating) and the final outcome will be us reverting to an age of tribalism.

We are actually killing ourselves by letting ourselves live. You see, you might have some genetic disease, you're taking medicine (which isn't part of Mother Nature) and you're living long enough to reproduce. Now this is a serious breach in the law of Natural selection as the genetically weaker person (please do not take this as a moral argument, it's purely intellectual) has the chance to reproduce. It's not about the strongest survive, as rapists (as a primal reproductive impulse) would then be king. In the end we are making ourselves a weaker race genetically. The moral question of course is, when a person doesn’t have a right to live /be born; it's a very tough situation none of us can take responsibility for. However there is always the genetical modification option when considering new children (i.e. Best-bread from two DNAs) but then, like in Gattica (awesome movie, btw), we will see discrimination against those who are born naturally. I’m happy I won’t live a thousand years, just to see us stumble.

Edit: Oh and BTW, Miktar, HAT is -the- Afrikaans Dictionary, kinda like Oxford for English

[PloPshoP]

We are actually killing ourselves by letting ourselves live. You see, you might have some genetic disease, you're taking medicine (which isn't part of Mother Nature) and you're living long enough to reproduce. Now this is a serious breach in the law of Natural selection as the genetically weaker person (please do not take this as a moral argument, it's purely intellectual) has the chance to reproduce. It's not about the strongest survive, as rapists (as a primal reproductive impulse) would then be king. In the end we are making ourselves a weaker race genetically. The moral question of course is, when a person doesn?t have a right to live /be born; it's a very tough situation none of us can take responsibility for. However there is always the genetical modification option when considering new children (i.e. Best-bread from two DNAs) but then, like in Gattica (awesome movie, btw), we will see discrimination against those who are born naturally. I?m happy I won?t live a thousand years, just to see us stumble.



Your argument is 100% sound, but it also highlights its own origin. As humans, we are set apart from animals by our varied emotions. It is these emotions that causes us to bend the rule of natural selection. We save a loved one (through the development of medical science and through the desire to so) by intervening against the law of natural selection, whereas animals have been abiding by this law without fail.