"Feminists cry foul over Fat Princess"

[Flangenimblick]

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/feminists-cry-foul-over-fat-princess/1232315




Does Sony's cartoony castle game cross the line?

By Ben Silverman


She's plump, powerful and ready to cause more controversy than "SuperSize Me."

She's Fat Princess, the star of Sony's upcoming video game of the same name. Debuting at last week's E3 expo, the colorful Fat Princess is a capture-the-flag game with a twist: you can thwart capture attempts by locking the once-thin princess in a dungeon and stuffing her full of cake, thereby increasing her girth and making her harder for your enemies to haul back to home base.

According to popular gaming blog Joystiq, two feminist gaming sites have already voiced their displeasure with the weighty issue.

Feminist Gamer's "Mighty Ponygirl" rings in diplomatically, suggesting a new way to play the game altogether.

"Instead of running out into the forest to find cake to fatten up the princess with, why not go out and find gold (which is a lot heavier than cake) to stuff into a treasure chest. The more gold in the chest, the heavier it would be, and the harder it would be to carry," she said, before adding, "Oh, but that's not as "cute" as cake and fat chicks. Right."

Over at Shakesville, however, writer Melissa McEwan cuts to the chase, telling Sony she's "positively thrilled to see such unyielding dedication to creating a new generation of fat-hating, heteronormative ---holes."

Sony has yet to issue an official response, although Joystiq did receive a particularly informative update from James Green, Fat Princess' lead art director, who clued gamers in on the origins of the game:

"Does it make it better or worse that the concept artist (who designed the look, characters, everything) is a girl?"

Hmmm...hope the game's detractors don't mind eating a bit of crow.


Whereas I agree that the game designers could have made the game just as fun with a large treasure-chest the fact is that they didn't. Not because, I believe, they were "typical male *******s" or whatever, it's just the direction they chose to take the game.
If the character had been black there would have been **** about it, if the character was a white male prince there would be no worries about this game whatsoever.
This is just more bull**** people are getting all strung up about.
That's my opinion anyway.

[Elaiwyn]

Oh my gawd.
Does every game have to be bleached out of all character so that it does not upset someone?

Let's see the game's name contains the word castle.
The hero normally rescues princesses from castles in stories and games.
It all so contains the word cartoony - hence it would have a humorous twist.

I think they pretty much pinned both concepts down in the game play.

I pity the sensationalist attention hugger that society has become.

[Rooi]

hmm, seems people will only be happy when the good guys are all circles and and bad guys are all x's or crosses.

No more humanoid figures in games i say, make everything knots n crosses, with blood.

[Chevron]

Sigh.

Inbeforeazimuthandonona. It'ssexistsocietyisfullofdoublestandardsitsnotmeth atneedstodevelopathickskinitstheworldthatsmessedup .

[Fredder]

It's just a game . . . . . .

[Domanskip]

Hahahaha awesome. Seething feminists make me smile :)
I think it's a great and funny idea for a game, and no, a ****ing treasure chest isn't as funny nor and cute as a fat princess.

[Repline]

Sigh.

Inbeforeazimuthandonona. It'ssexistsocietyisfullofdoublestandardsitsnotmeth atneedstodevelopathickskinitstheworldthatsmessedup .

All I can say is LoL.

I believe they should voice their opinion, they have every right to it (the feminists), but really, complaining about a game that is suppose to be cartoony. Who cares.

[Drakus]

I might get a PS3 just for this game

[Kensei]

Sigh.

Inbeforeazimuthandonona. It'ssexistsocietyisfullofdoublestandardsitsnotmeth atneedstodevelopathickskinitstheworldthatsmessedup .

I see your point of double standards ;)

I think that game sounds frakkin hilarious :D reminds me of the Two Stupid Dogs episode when they have to feed Red Riding Hood a huge amount of food (so they can get the can of cheese whizz)

There is a difference - this is actually trying to be funny and tongue-in-cheek. And people that take it seriously is like saying that Resident Evil is discriminatory against zombies, or Roman's portrayal of a noble hero in Armed and Dangerous was not his best

[onona]

Inbeforeazimuthandonona. It'ssexistsocietyisfullofdoublestandardsitsnotmeth atneedstodevelopathickskinitstheworldthatsmessedup .

*yawn*

Actually, I find the idea of this game pretty ****ing funny.

Would it be too much to ask you to at least try to stop stereotyping so much, Chevron? Honestly, it seems you don't have a single original idea about anything, and frankly I am starting to find your posts extraordinarily irritating. You know what they say about stereotypes - they're opinions for people who are too stupid to have their own.

[Chevron]

Would it be too much to ask you to at least try to stop stereotyping so much, Chevron? Honestly, it seems you don't have a single original idea about anything, and frankly I am starting to find your posts extraordinarily irritating. You know what they say about stereotypes - they're opinions for people who are too stupid to have their own.

Ha Ha.

You just made me smile. I'm afraid I'm not the stereotype this time around. After the first incident of the sexism thing, where I got an infraction for a pic I posted, I thought maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was just being dumb.

I decided to show the pic to one of my female friends. For all intents and purposes a "normal" girl. Not extreme feminist or extreme girly girl. Somewhere in the middle. Currently in her last year of varsity.

She wasn't offended by the pics at all and thinks that you and Azimuth are just uptight feminists that need to relax.

So just relax. You seem to be the steorotypical feminist. The world isn't fair. Deal with it.
Being oversensitive doesn't help at all.

[Repline]

http://iputatextonimage.com/wp-content/delicious-cake.jpg

I couldn't help but pull this from the motivation thread... it just seemed so fitting?

[Fredder]

nom (10 points), nom (10 points), nom (10 points), nom (150 points combo bonus)

[HumblePie]

Sigh.

Inbeforeazimuthandonona. It'ssexistsocietyisfullofdoublestandardsitsnotmeth atneedstodevelopathickskinitstheworldthatsmessedup

You spoiled my fun right there.

*YAY* more politically incorrect games *YAY*

[Kensei]

It is, Repline :D Well done.

Chevron, I have to ask, this female friend, does she frequent a lot of forums? Specifically gaming or male dominated ones?
I ask not to degrade her view, likely the picture was not that offensive, but because it is not just the picture, its everything else. Luckily it has got a lot better with time, but it is not just that picture, its the joke about being in the kitchen (which I am now immune to :/), its the 'omg you are a CHICK', its the 'lulz, moar boobies', its the idiots who complained about the breast reduction in games, its the dismissal of arguments, sometimes valid, because 'females are just PMSing and moody'

This stuff builds and builds until you get one picture and that is the thing that tips the scale.

You will laugh, but I actively refused to play Tomb Raider for many years because I didn't want to play a scantily clad person (Those shorts barely cover her ass). To this day, I still bitch about the fact that plate mail on females in games covers the boobs and only parts of the legs, while the same set of armour covers the male's entire body.
I want better game designs and story, not better frakking BOOB physics >_<

[Paradox]

Sigh.

Inbeforeazimuthandonona. It'ssexistsocietyisfullofdoublestandardsitsnotmeth atneedstodevelopathickskinitstheworldthatsmessedup .

You know, while you throw stereotypes around, its you who ends up looking like the stereotypical "Any women that complains must be a FEMINIST!!!11one" guy.

No one likes that guy.


I, personally, find the concept of the game hilarious.


It is, Repline :D Well done.

Chevron, I have to ask, this female friend, does she frequent a lot of forums? Specifically gaming or male dominated ones?
I ask not to degrade her view, likely the picture was not that offensive, but because it is not just the picture, its everything else. Luckily it has got a lot better with time, but it is not just that picture, its the joke about being in the kitchen (which I am now immune to :/), its the 'omg you are a CHICK', its the 'lulz, moar boobies', its the idiots who complained about the breast reduction in games, its the dismissal of arguments, sometimes valid, because 'females are just PMSing and moody'

This stuff builds and builds until you get one picture and that is the thing that tips the scale.

You will laugh, but I actively refused to play Tomb Raider for many years because I didn't want to play a scantily clad person (Those shorts barely cover her ass). I want better game designs and story, not better frakking BOOB physics >_<

They will never understand this because they never have to go through it. :<

(Though the new tomb raiders are pretty cool, I pretty much got through legends because of the story)

[HumblePie]

http://www.now.org/images/rounds/young-diamond2.gif

GTFO GTFO FGTO run.....

[Chippit]

We are not doing this again.

[BattleMoose]

We are not doing this again.

I am not sure if thats called optimisim or denial.....

[Drakus]

PLEEEEEAAASSSEEEE somebody make it stop!!!

[Chevron]

It is, Repline :D Well done.

Chevron, I have to ask, this female friend, does she frequent a lot of forums? Specifically gaming or male dominated ones?
I ask not to degrade her view, likely the picture was not that offensive, but because it is not just the picture, its everything else. Luckily it has got a lot better with time, but it is not just that picture, its the joke about being in the kitchen (which I am now immune to :/), its the 'omg you are a CHICK', its the 'lulz, moar boobies', its the idiots who complained about the breast reduction in games, its the dismissal of arguments, sometimes valid, because 'females are just PMSing and moody'

This stuff builds and builds until you get one picture and that is the thing that tips the scale.

You will laugh, but I actively refused to play Tomb Raider for many years because I didn't want to play a scantily clad person (Those shorts barely cover her ass). To this day, I still bitch about the fact that plate mail on females in games covers the boobs and only parts of the legs, while the same set of armour covers the male's entire body.
I want better game designs and story, not better frakking BOOB physics >_<

That does make sense. To be honest I also think that the time spent on boob physics could be better spent on a better story.

That female friend of mine isn't that much into gaming. The sims and Diablo2 are all that she really plays.

I just wish that people would stop being so oversensitive.

[Elaiwyn]

[Edit: Comment remove because it may be offensive to Chauvinistic men :o]

[HumblePie]

[Edit: Comment remove because it may be offensive to Chauvinistic men ]


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/MastahCrushed/awesome.png

[onona]

Ha Ha.

You just made me smile. I'm afraid I'm not the stereotype this time around. After the first incident of the sexism thing, where I got an infraction for a pic I posted, I thought maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was just being dumb.

I decided to show the pic to one of my female friends. For all intents and purposes a "normal" girl. Not extreme feminist or extreme girly girl. Somewhere in the middle. Currently in her last year of varsity.

She wasn't offended by the pics at all and thinks that you and Azimuth are just uptight feminists that need to relax.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so I'll just re-quote this for emphasis:


.Maybe I was just being dumb.

Frankly I think you can remove the word "maybe", and replace "was just being" with "am".



So just relax. You seem to be the steorotypical feminist. The world isn't fair. Deal with it.
Being oversensitive doesn't help at all.

I'm a feminist? I've never thought of myself as that. Unless, like HumblePie, you misunderstood everything said in that motivation thread yesterday (I'm still struggling to understand how being annoyed at guys who **** their pants when confronted by images of other men makes me a feminist, but apparently you're consulting the Stupid Dictionary instead of a proper one, and have chosen a word that you vaguely recognised from somewhere, but have little understanding of).

Seriously Chevron, I've yet to see anything but rampant stupidity and inappropriate stereotyping spewing forth from your little hatch.

[Drakus]

[Edit: Comment remove because it may be offensive to Chauvinistic men :o]

Elaiwyn, make your comment. If the shoe fits they'll probably wear it. Humblepie you really need to work on your people skills seriously.

Now can someone please start a thread for all these people that is still suffering to get over pre-1960 civilization so that the rest of us can carry on with the 21st century.

[HumblePie]

I can't resist

If


Seriously Chevron, I've yet to see anything but rampant stupidity and inappropriate stereotyping spewing forth from your little hatch.

Then


I'm a feminist?

Else


I'm still struggling to understand how being annoyed at guys who **** their pants when confronted by images of other men makes me a feminist,

Look, No one cares if you think you are not a feminist but, I'm (and anyone else) is entitled to stick you in that box. Like miktars "line" everyone’s definition of an irritating god complex feminist is up to them.

Boohoo

[onona]

It's like the words go in, but somehow, somewhere, the line is broken and they leak out the other side.

[Paradox]

Look, No one cares if you think you are not a feminist but, I'm (and anyone else) is entitled to stick you in that box. Like miktars "line" everyone?s definition of an irritating god complex feminist is up to them.

Boohoo

Then you won't mind if half of the population puts you firmly in the "Chauvinistic douchebag" box?


It's like the words go in, but somehow, somewhere, the line is broken and they leak out the other side.

I think mayhap he is starting a fight for the sake of fighting.

[Elaiwyn]

Seriously HumblePie I am waiting for you to get banned. You have been a troll since day one.

[HumblePie]

Chauvinistic douchebag

we're having such a party in that box.

[Chevron]

Sigh.

It seems as though Kensai is the only reasonably sensible female in this thread.

Kensai gets 1000 internets for being actually trying to explain and make sense of everything instead of just adding to the name calling.

[Paradox]

Sigh.

It seems as though Kensai is the only reasonably sensible female in this thread.

Kensai gets 1000 internets for being actually trying to explain and make sense of everything instead of just adding to the name calling.

Just FYI, I only put HP in that box.

Look, another thing that irritates me is being called a feminist because I don't agree with something that a male thinks is right. Like I said, I find the whole concept to be hilarious. But it gets a bit much when people start going "Oh noez <insertposterhere> is going to have a fit! Because they obviously fit in said box because they don't agree with me."

Etc etc. I could go on, but I'm not going to.

[cYn]

That does make sense. To be honest I also think that the time spent on boob physics could be better spent on a better story.

That female friend of mine isn't that much into gaming. The sims and Diablo2 are all that she really plays.

I just wish that people would stop being so oversensitive.

Honestly, I definitely think that some people are touchy and defensive around here. But then you come along with your trolling and it all seems justified. As much as I get annoyed by over zealous feminazis, your ignorance is far more annoying.

Your post was just a blatant troll. If you want to get into some war with the women on this board, and further cement your status, do it in PM or something. It's gotten to a point where it's not about people being overly PC, it's just you broadcasting the level of your intellect, which at its current level is just ****ting up threads.

[Chevron]

Honestly, I definitely think that some people are touchy and defensive around here. But then you come along with your trolling and it all seems justified. As much as I get annoyed by over zealous feminazis, your ignorance is far more annoying.

Your post was just a blatant troll. If you want to get into some war with the women on this board, and further cement your status, do it in PM or something. It's gotten to a point where it's not about people being overly PC, it's just you broadcasting the level of your intellect, which at its current level is just ****ting up threads.

It's not that. Yes, my first post in this thread was a troll. I just needed to bring this topic up again because I thought I was judged unfairly before and still do. After showing my female I realized that people on this forum were jumping to conclusions about me and I didn't like that.

[Drakus]

I can actually understand where Chevron is coming from. He just posted a pic with women in swimwear, Azi didn't like it and humblepie just added fuel on the fire. It's not like Chevron meant to upset the fairer sex.

Please guys and girls, kiss and make up.

[Azimuth]

I think this game looks awesome.

[Kensei]

Edit: not worth it ^_^

[Drakus]

I think this game looks awesome.
I love your sense of humor :D

[Chevron]

I can actually understand where Chevron is coming from. He just posted a pic with women in swimwear, Azi didn't like it and humblepie just added fuel on the fire. It's not like Chevron meant to upset the fairer sex.

Please guys and girls, kiss and make up.

That was actually weird as well. That I didn't even think that, that swimwear pic could be considered as offensive at all.

Was posted just for the "you've lost the game" text because it was the only one I had at the time.

I didn't mean to start anything or offend anyone.

[brazed]

Done.

HP you've been warned, I won't mind seeing you go. Everyone else, this has become tiresome.