View Full Version : Now this is the life:
Miktar
18-07-2007, 10:30 AM
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5120/17072007003kl2.jpg
Priest at his desk, enjoying the creature comforts of our job. Now if only we'd get to keep half this ****. :P
Gambit
18-07-2007, 10:46 AM
Bastards! All of you!
What game is being played?
brazed
18-07-2007, 10:57 AM
That looks like assasins creed...
Miktar
18-07-2007, 11:25 AM
Call of Juarez, dude. Assassin's Creed - what do you think we are, a US publication?
how do they say
"its a lousy job but some one has to do it" sitting around all day playing games must be so boring,and the stess must be tremendous
i have never hated my job so much as right now :(
P.s do you get overtime and danger pay as well?
Miktar
18-07-2007, 11:52 AM
"Sitting around all day playing games"
God, I wish. I truely wish.
What you see in the picture is an exception, not the norm.
As awesome as this job is, it is not what you think it is. :P
ib3waffle
18-07-2007, 11:54 AM
I. Hate. You.
brazed
18-07-2007, 12:16 PM
Call of Juarez, dude. Assassin's Creed - what do you think we are, a US publication?
With some of the things you guys have pulled off, I wouldn't be surprised.
Frozenfireside
18-07-2007, 12:29 PM
Oooooh-One for below the belt.
I need to rob the Nag H.Q.-Jokeing :-)
CaptainCrunch
18-07-2007, 02:19 PM
Lovely...
Also another heads up:
Call of Juarez (PC) R65 (http://www.take2.co.za/product.php?id=2025414)
Miktar
18-07-2007, 02:21 PM
With some of the things you guys have pulled off, I wouldn't be surprised.
I'd be curious to know what you mean. It's not like we can scoop any US publication, or get a review or preview in before any website...
Azimuth
18-07-2007, 03:37 PM
My monthly package arrived from NAG this morning, but I didn't get one of those. Please tell Priest so he can rectify the situation.
Ruandre
18-07-2007, 03:46 PM
Awesome! I know someone's staying after work tonight. :)
My monthly package arrived from NAG this morning, but I didn't get one of those. Please tell Priest so he can rectify the situation.Hahaha, You just want it so you can rock out in High-Definition. Wait, you're closer -- yes, send it straight away! :D
ironwolf
18-07-2007, 03:51 PM
Cant you people see how he is stressing...he smokes lucky strike(if im not mistaken).
PerVert NexT Door
18-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Your throats the only road to your lungs. you might as well tar it.
dammit
18-07-2007, 05:20 PM
this, naturally, just perpetuates the idea that all nag staff do is sit around and play games...
brazed
18-07-2007, 05:42 PM
I'd be curious to know what you mean. It's not like we can scoop any US publication, or get a review or preview in before any website...
I remember you having a major review, not too long a ago, that matched any overseas rag for timing. I know that's vague, but It's what I was thinking of.
Screw The Game! Give Me That Hdtv!
Wow!!!!Can I come and play, I don't have work to do? That telly's a beaut all right.
Btw, how is the game Miktar?
Miktar
19-07-2007, 08:35 AM
I don't know, I've not played it. I'm not Priest, remember?
But of course;)
Just thought that maybe you've played it. Was just wondering if it's worth getting or not.
Miktar
19-07-2007, 04:12 PM
Not sure, I've heard a lot of mixed things about it. Some people say it's cool, others don't dig it. I know he had the demo on the NAG DVD at some point...
^^Yeah it was, my machine couldn't handle it so never got the chance to try it out. I'll just check out some reviews on the net even though I don't like to purchase something based upon someone else's opinion.
Chevron
20-07-2007, 09:49 AM
I don't like to purchase something based upon someone else's opinion.
Then what do you base your purchasing decisions on? The cool box the game comes in?
^^Ha ha, no silly.
I just meant that I won't base my decision solely on a reviewers impression of a game as we all have different tastes. So I won't base it on his or her overall impression of the game. I rather use a review to point out potential dislikes that I might have in a game eg, crap control schemes, bugs, pointless objectives and the like.
My decision in the end is based on a few things like eg: certain aspects of a review, research into the history of the series or the developer, demos and word of mouth.
Miktar
20-07-2007, 11:49 AM
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Chevron, what's that for?
I also don't base my purchasing decisions on the opinions of others. I don't read reviews.
Instead, I read previews, watch trailers, check out the demo or ask my friends what they think of it - but I never make the choice based entirely on the opinion of others, that's stupid. I know what I like, and when I see something I like, I'm aware of it.
It's not like I'm too stupid to make up my own mind, and make my own choices.
I think that Chevron meant it light hearted and maybe a lillte sarcastically.
Chevron
20-07-2007, 12:13 PM
The cool box thing was meant sarcastically.
I admit, basing your decision one review is a bad idea, but reading multiple reviews gives you a more balanced idea of what to expect. Even word of mouth is an informal review.
To be honest I actually forgot about demo's.
Silly me.
Even word of mouth is an informal review.
True and every so often from someone who actualy knows nada about gaming.
dammit
20-07-2007, 02:08 PM
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I don't read reviews.
Instead, I read previews.
How is a preview a better tool for judging a game than a review? I find that previews tend to be all hype whereas a review might get down to the nitty-gritty stuff and tell readers the good the bad and the ugly
Azimuth
20-07-2007, 02:12 PM
Where a review tends to evaluate the good / bad points of a game, a preview is more likely to get to the nitty gritty of the game's substance. While it remains to be seen whether or not the game actually delivers, a well-written preview is an excellent barometer for determing your potential interest in the title.
Also, wholly unlike a review, a preview is generally written without prejudice. Give someone who doesn't much like RPGs an RPG to review, however, and that reviewer's experience of the game is immediately biased.
dammit
20-07-2007, 02:20 PM
Where a review tends to evaluate the good / bad points of a game, a preview is more likely to get to the nitty gritty of the game's substance. While it remains to be seen whether or not the game actually delivers, a well-written preview is an excellent barometer for determing your potential interest in the title.
Also, wholly unlike a review, a preview is generally written without prejudice. Give someone who doesn't much like RPGs an RPG to review, however, and that reviewer's experience of the game is immediately biased.
True...I'd never thought about it from that angle. Anyway, I tend to base my ideas on both reviews and previews together with my own likes and dislikes. :) Though, I'm happy to try anything thats free ;)
Chevron
20-07-2007, 02:22 PM
Give someone who doesn't much like RPGs an RPG to review, however, and that reviewer's experience of the game is immediately biased.
That's why reading multiple reviews is essential.
Miktar
20-07-2007, 03:00 PM
How is a preview a better tool for judging a game than a review? I find that previews tend to be all hype whereas a review might get down to the nitty-gritty stuff and tell readers the good the bad and the ugly
Because I /want/ the hype. What are you, jaded?
Games are awesome, dammit, and I have no interest in constantly reading cynical, jaded opinions that criticize. If a preview was too MUCH hype, I'll get burned, and learn my lesson to not read previews from that magazine/website, because then the writer didn't do his or her job right.
brazed
20-07-2007, 04:39 PM
You put a lot of faith in your fellow journo's.
dammit
20-07-2007, 04:41 PM
Because I /want/ the hype. What are you, jaded?
Yeah, a little :P Been caught up in one to many hypes that didn't live up to all that expectation. Though, i've been getting excited about some games on the way out just from the previews i've read :) but i'll still probably wait for the review before dashing out to get them.
Miktar
20-07-2007, 05:00 PM
I never said to wholesale believe the hype - just that avoiding it means you're losing out on a lot of what made gaming fun for you in the first place.
I've noticed that as gamers get older, they start to lose touch with a lot of things that made gaming special to them in the first place, without realizing it, and then end up 'fading out' of games or going 'nah, nothing interesting is out'.
When I was younger, I didn't give a **** what I played, as long as I was playing something.
dammit
20-07-2007, 05:06 PM
I've noticed that as gamers get older, they start to lose touch with a lot of things that made gaming special to them in the first place, without realizing it, and then end up 'fading out' of games or going 'nah, nothing interesting is out'.
I must admit, though i am hardly 'old' (and for me getting 'older' still means young), that i have been through that phase and lost touch for a while. Recently I found a game that, thankfully, brought it all back for me :) (the hype the excitement and the willingness to part with the money) Hope i never lose touch like that again!
Miktar
20-07-2007, 05:18 PM
I also have my moments where I lack clarity, and then something hits me in the head and I get reminded of why I started doing this in the first place.
LazyDemoni
20-07-2007, 05:24 PM
Don't you find that previews can be biased too? Sometimes it seems like a certain sites/mags etc. have some strange reason to punt a game with a "this is going to be the next big thing, I told you so!" attitude with little valid justification for their opinions. Granted, this doesn't happen often.
Miktar
20-07-2007, 06:06 PM
Don't you find that previews can be biased too? Sometimes it seems like a certain sites/mags etc. have some strange reason to punt a game with a "this is going to be the next big thing, I told you so!" attitude with little valid justification for their opinions. Granted, this doesn't happen often.
Yes. Previews can be biased too. EVERYTHING can be biased. That's Sesame Street stuff, seriously.
Just, for a second, assume that people can think for a bit, and then decide if they want to believe the preview or not, based on past previews, reputation of the media outlet, etc.
LazyDemoni
20-07-2007, 08:32 PM
Obviously I only read previews from sites which have a decent track record but sometimes there's no way in determining what exactly to make of it. They've played the game, they're telling you about it and that's all you have. Even the preview material itself could not be representative of the entire (or most of) the game. There are times when game boxes have quotes praising the game based on previews because the actual reviews sucked. This could be because previews tend to be a general overview whilst reviews tend to get picky. Some might not care about the smaller details but obviously not everyone. In the ideal world, everyone would get to spend a couple hours playing a game to decide if he likes it but without a big game rental service it's difficult.
Miktar
20-07-2007, 10:02 PM
You're stating the obvious, I feel.
What exactly is the problem?
GeometriX
20-07-2007, 10:31 PM
I've noticed that as gamers get older, they start to lose touch with a lot of things that made gaming special to them in the first place, without realizing it, and then end up 'fading out' of games or going 'nah, nothing interesting is out'.
Sorry, somewhat off-topic here, but you've just described a problem I'm facing these days. As the wise old (:P) guru, what's your magic potion to keep you interested in new games? I need to figure out something, because fewer and fewer games hold my attention of late, and I'm trying desperately do avoid the dreaded "jaded" label - I'm clearly to young to be classified as such.
dammit
20-07-2007, 11:24 PM
Sorry, somewhat off-topic here, but you've just described a problem I'm facing these days. As the wise old (:P) guru, what's your magic potion to keep you interested in new games? I need to figure out something, because fewer and fewer games hold my attention of late, and I'm trying desperately do avoid the dreaded "jaded" label - I'm clearly to young to be classified as such.
I'm not minorex, but I think you just have to find a new love for the industry. Sometimes you need to just change your mindset...maybe find a game thats not yet out that you think will be exciting and get caught up in the hype. Even if it doesn't live up to expectations you can still enjoy that thrill ride ;) And of course, you can complain about it on the forums if it really sux....so you'll get enjoyment out of that too :)
Boggle24
21-07-2007, 12:00 PM
maybe find a game thats not yet out that you think will be exciting and get caught up in the hype.
Methinks it's the whole "hype machine" that really gets gamers jaded in the place.
And I get what Miktar said with the hype being part of the fun, and it is, but people get too entrenched in it is all I'm saying.
We had an interesting discussion on IRC yesterday where we just named all the old ATARI, NES, PC games that we loved playing so much.
The reason we loved playing them so much was becuase they were games and nothing more really.
That's just what I thought in any case, it's the whole industry basically giving us too high of an expectation, there was a time that I would have been content just playing a game becuase it's an electronic piece of entertainment and I loved it for being that.
I mean, Penguin Adventure anyone ?
I'll have me some thanks.
Obviously though in this day and age you don't necessarily want to play just anything becuase you really do get the really crappy games, but everything you play doesn't have to be the next best FPS, driving game, Platformer.
Boggle away !
SWOOOOOOSH
But I guess all of this is besides the point really, nice setup.
What happens if say, you were to tell them it all got "stolen" in a nag office raid :)
Do you have to pay ?, or do they have it insured or anything ?
Nyah.
dammit
21-07-2007, 05:54 PM
I think you're talking about the general disillusionment that a lot of gamers have felt...
Its a good thing to think critically but life can be a bit dull if everythings in black and white. Sometimes its fun to live in the illusion for a while...get caught up in a bit of hype :)
tranquillity
22-07-2007, 02:16 PM
That's how my room once looked.. *blush* Well, similar..
I had my computer, my friends laptop, my dad's laptop and my mom's laptop all to myself *evil laugh* :)
Miktar
22-07-2007, 04:26 PM
Sorry, somewhat off-topic here, but you've just described a problem I'm facing these days. As the wise old (:P) guru, what's your magic potion to keep you interested in new games? I need to figure out something, because fewer and fewer games hold my attention of late, and I'm trying desperately do avoid the dreaded "jaded" label - I'm clearly to young to be classified as such.
Everyone has to solve their own problems, when they're of these types. Since you've identify you have a problem in the first place, you've solved half of it. The rest is up to you. I can't really give suggestions, because what worked for me won't necessarily work for you.
At the moment I’m caught in this “jaded” phenomena that you speak of. I have tons of really awesome games that either I haven’t played or I just briefly had a spin. Yet I’m still very much interested in gaming. I read my NAG, every inch of it, read news and reviews on the net etc. So I feed myself gaming for the most part of the day. I even drive my roommate’s nuts about talk of gaming but when it comes to actually playing, I’m struggling.
I know what my problem is though but the solution is somewhat of a mystery to me at the moment. To me, gaming was the best a couple of years ago, me and my best friend would spend days on end playing games. We would talk games, eat games, play games and just have the most fun ever. No one could understand how we could get so much joy out of games as none of our friends enjoyed games like we did. Then the inevitable happened. We finish school, get girlfriends, serious jobs, homes etc and all else fails. Well, since then I’ve basically been playing games by myself and this my dear NAG members is what’s robbing me of my joy. My girlfriend plays Sims every no and then and my roommates are as casual gamers as you get. Playing games by yourself can be fun but the novelty soon wears off. Games are meant to be enjoyed with friends; I believe this with my entire heart and soul. And I’m not just talking multiplayer here, even hardcore shooters needs to be played together with friends.
That’s my problem and I don’t have a solution. I’ve been thinking about getting Live but it just, doesn’t, feel the same. I’m a sad boy. :(
Miktar
23-07-2007, 10:21 AM
You become jaded when you grow up. The general solution to this problem, is to not grow up. If you have already grown up, don't worry, it's not too late.
Wow, thanks Mik, its the first time in my life that someone says that to me.
I must admit, I did feel like a kid when I watched Transformers Friday night.
You become jaded when you grow up. The general solution to this problem, is to not grow up. If you have already grown up, don't worry, it's not too late.
Those are the truest words you ever spoke Miktar...i thought that it was only me with The Peter Pan Syndrom..i love being in touch with my inner child.That why is still love gaming:)
Miktar
23-07-2007, 11:19 AM
I'm currently having a running battle with my adult self and child self, both vying for dominance. I notice my child self just got the Red Armour and the Rail...
Good luck to that. I've been stuck at that level for the past 23 years, tough as hell.
I'm currently having a running battle with my adult self and child self, both vying for dominance. I notice my child self just got the Red Armour and the Rail...
Trust me the child self wins 99.9% of the time mine just got The Splinter Cell Trilogy the adult self wanted new shoes , ow well lets get out the bostick and stick that sole back again :)
Oh so you bought it, you won't be disappinted, great fun.
I need new shoes too, gee, you're right you know.
Frozenfireside
23-07-2007, 12:47 PM
Miktar-Have you lost any expensive hardware?
And if you have-Did you have to pay for it or did they just write-it-off?
Oh and Pcformat forums are ****-Your not allowed to complain about spammers in your thread and by god do they spam.
Miktar
23-07-2007, 12:51 PM
No, we don't lose expensive hardware - this is a business we're running, after all. If we did lose it, we'd have to pay for it.
Azimuth
23-07-2007, 03:00 PM
How do you lose hardware anyway?
"Hmm. The computer has suddenly stopped working, although it was fine a moment ago. Oh my god, the video card is gone."
GeometriX
23-07-2007, 03:14 PM
How do you lose hardware anyway?
Oooo, I could tell you stories. But I won't, or else I'll get in trouble.
You become jaded when you grow up. The general solution to this problem, is to not grow up. If you have already grown up, don't worry, it's not too late.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/992/thinnerchildau8.gif (http://imageshack.us)
DaBaish
01-08-2007, 12:24 PM
What doed "grow up" mean?
Oh, and by the way! I'll give you lots of seriously bad-arse hugs and kisses if you let me play some 360 for a while! ^ ^
I'll go put on my dress.
Miktar
01-08-2007, 12:33 PM
What doed "grow up" mean?
Oh, and by the way! I'll give you lots of seriously bad-arse hugs and kisses if you let me play some 360 for a while! ^ ^
I'll go put on my dress.
You are not endearing me to you, and I don't think anyone on the forum is being amused by your childish attempts at humour and antics.
Shape up, or ship out.
How do you lose hardware anyway?
"Hmm. The computer has suddenly stopped working, although it was fine a moment ago. Oh my god, the video card is gone."
It's not hard. "Do we have part X?" "I think person A has it." "No, person B reviewed it." "We sent that back ages ago." "Didn't we have another one?" "What distributor was the one in February from? Did we send it back to them or the wrong one?" "No that one was DOA so they were supposed to send us another one but didn't, I think." "That was the other one, this one came direct from the manufacturer." "Are you sure? I thought that was the first one." "No it was this one, or even if it was one definitely went back to company Q, so they're still missing one." "Did you check to see if you brought it home and forgot about it?" "It was on my desk before it got cleaned one night, I think person C wanted to borrow it so maybe they have it."
We've now got a hardcopy inventory tracking system that we've just added serial numbers to in an attempt to stop this kind of thing. Otherwise it piles up and before you know it distributors are asking for 5 figures worth of hardware they claim we have but nobody seems to know the location of. So far it seems to mostly be working, or at least severely reducing the problem if not eliminating it.
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