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			<title>Red Letter Media Reviews</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:44:40 GMT</pubDate>
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Red Letter Media Main Site (http://www.redlettermedia.com/index.html) 
 
I came across...</description>
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I came across this guy's exceptional reviews quite a while back, but I'm unsure if the rest of the NAG collective has had the pleasure.<br />
<br />
Some reviews to get you started:<br />
<ul><li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">Star Wars: Episode I</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA" target="_blank">Star Wars: Episode II</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA" target="_blank">Avatar</a></li>
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Enjoy.</div>

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			<dc:creator>GhOsT_828</dc:creator>
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			<title>Racism as a means of an excuse or allegation</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:54:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>One such example is the recent incident of Bees Roux murdering that Metro Police lad.  
 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>One such example is the recent incident of Bees Roux murdering that Metro Police lad. <br />
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				While there was no suggestion in court of a racial motive in the killing, Mogale is black and Roux is white, the South African Municipal Workers' Union called it &quot;racially inspired&quot; in a statement Monday. The union said the dead officer was one of its members.<br />
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Racial tension is never far from the surface in South Africa, 16 years after the end of white rule.
			
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Another example is what a teacher at my school said to me today. She said I must work harder purely on the grounds on that I am a white male and I must give myself as much of a chance as possible, which made me realise that not much has really changed in South Africa, just reversed (a bit of a blunt statement, but I do not know how else to express it). <br />
<br />
I don't know, I feel as if I'm ranting a little bit, but this kind of reality shakes me up a bit. I guess I am impatient in terms of the progress of South Africa in moving away from bias with regards to race. <br />
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I would like any response or expression, even criticism on my view would be awesome, I am looking for a little clarity in my messed up head.</div>

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			<dc:creator>RayRay</dc:creator>
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			<title>What do you think about this set of ethics, as a guideline?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:08:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[(To the more knowledgeable posters on this forum - if you see what I'm saying or getting at, or will be getting at, don't give the game away, please)...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>(To the more knowledgeable posters on this forum - if you see what I'm saying or getting at, or will be getting at, don't give the game away, please)<br />
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After the little discussion about how it seems that religion (specifically, the middle-class white-centric Christian-type of religion) is the *only* way to teach children ethics - the validity of such a statement clearly dubious beyond belief - I had a thought.<br />
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What I'd like to pose to you, is this: read the list below, and vote if you think they're a good set of guidelines to live a life by, generally. Vote yes if you'd personally try and abide by at least most of them, because you find them reasonable and rational.<br />
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1. Don't give opinions or advice, unless you are specifically asked to do so.<br />
2. Don't bother people with your troubles unless you are sure they want to know.<br />
3. When in someone's home, show them respect or don't go there.<br />
4. If a guest in your home disrespects you on purpose, ask them to leave.<br />
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are clearly given the signal to do so.<br />
6. Do not take what does not belong to you, unless someone asks you to relieve them of their possession.<br />
7. Do not complain about something you are not being subjected to directly.<br />
8. Do not harm children.<br />
9. Do not kill animals unless you are attacked, or for their food.<br />
10. When in public, do not bother anyone. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they won't, leave. If they won't let you leave, defend yourself.<br />
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The list is general, and obviously just like most commandments that come in base-10, it is open to interpretation to some degree and obviously not all points are valid in every situation. Guidelines is as guidelines do.<br />
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So, vote.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Miktar</dc:creator>
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			<title>Nerdcore fans look at this: The Rap Guide To Human Nature.</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:01:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[http://bababrinkman.bandcamp.com/album/the-rap-guide-to-human-nature 
 
Track list: 
1. You Can't See Me 
2. Hypothesis 1 (Creationism) 
3. No Bugs...]]></description>
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Track list:<br />
1. You Can't See Me<br />
2. Hypothesis 1 (Creationism)<br />
3. No Bugs On Me<br />
4. David Buss Message<br />
5. Hypothesis 2 (Spiritualism)<br />
6. The Planter's Dilemma<br />
7. Hypothesis 3 (Social Constructivism)<br />
8. She's Ovulating<br />
9. Short-Term Mating Dance<br />
10. Parental Investment<br />
11. The Evolution of Gayness<br />
12. Olivia Judson Message<br />
13. Hypothesis 4 (Biological Determinism)<br />
14. Twin Studies<br />
15. GOCASE<br />
16. Wannabe G's<br />
17. Hypothesis 5 (Evolutionism)<br />
18. David Sloan Wilson Message<br />
19. Fame in the Brain<br />
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Funny AND informative! Woot! :)</div>

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			<dc:creator>dislekcia</dc:creator>
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			<title>Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus have a sword fight.</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:48:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This is just far too funny. This is from a blog (I think?) called 27b/6 
 
I don't know how many of you have read this but it is lulzworthy. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This is just far too funny. This is from a blog (I think?) called 27b/6<br />
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I don't know how many of you have read this but it is lulzworthy.<br />
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<a href="http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html" target="_blank">http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>Ravenworth</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Post Your Work-/Playspace [New Edition]]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:16:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Well I'm sure most of us have gotten new stuff since the previous thread like this one. So let's post our new, updated, upgrades gaming shires.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Well I'm sure most of us have gotten new stuff since the previous thread like this one. So let's post our new, updated, upgrades gaming shires. <br />
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Play Space.<br />
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Work space.<br />
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			<dc:creator>Obi Two Kenobi</dc:creator>
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			<title>Hunter Shoots a Bear</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:34:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M 
 
That poor bear!</description>
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That poor bear!</div>

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			<dc:creator>Necro101</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Zapiro on Religion & Gay Marriage]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This is a comic strip that was printed back in 2006, but I've only stumbled across it recently (university textbooks, tbh). Just thought I'd share it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This is a comic strip that was printed back in 2006, but I've only stumbled across it recently (university textbooks, tbh). Just thought I'd share it because it pretty much sums up the whole business. <br />
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<img src="http://www.zapiro.com/Cartoons/m_061123indep.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></div>

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			<dc:creator>dammit</dc:creator>
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			<title>Monitors</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:11:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>No not Screens. The Giant Lizards. 
I just want to know if anyone here has ever kept any monitor and if so what type and what permits are needed....</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>No not Screens. The Giant Lizards.<br />
I just want to know if anyone here has ever kept any monitor and if so what type and what permits are needed. Also if you can, supply me with the averag length, cage size you use/d and what it ate. I know this isn't really the right place but the other website's aren't visited aften and I need this info soon. Also if you didn't keep a monitor, any reptile is fine.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Stalker 103</dc:creator>
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			<title>Gmail: Priority Inbox</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[http://mail.google.com/mail/help/priority-inbox.html 
 
You have it yet? Thoughts? 
 
Since I'm the type to file, archive and star messages, my inbox...]]></description>
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You have it yet? Thoughts?<br />
<br />
Since I'm the type to file, archive and star messages, my inbox is usually empty and sorted, but I see a lot of people who never clean out anything in their inbox, and it's a giant mess - so I imagine this was made for them.<br />
<br />
Are you a messy digital kinda person, and if so, does Priority Inbox do it for you?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Miktar</dc:creator>
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			<title>Gamebased movies:</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:13:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Well most of you probably don't know what (good/bad) game-based movies are coming out or are being planned, so this is just to make it easier: 
 
*1....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Well most of you probably don't know what (good/bad) game-based movies are coming out or are being planned, so this is just to make it easier:<br />
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<b>1. Bioshock:<br />
</b><br />
 Bioshock&quot; video game designer Ken Levine recently did a radio interview, where he spoke about the plan to turn the popular game into a feature film.<br />
<br />
&quot;I will say that it is still an active thing,&quot; he revealed. &quot;And it is something we are actively talking about and actively working on. The movie business is complicated - I can't tell you whether it's going to happen for sure or it's not going to happen for sure. But it's something we are actively discussing, <a href="http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=18850&amp;count=0#ixzz0yO94NgbP" target="_blank">Read More</a><br />
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<b>2. Starcraft: <br />
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Blizzard is now hard at work on a movie version of the &quot;WarCraft&quot; video game, but has also been looking to turn their &quot;StarCraft&quot; franchise into the next big Hollywood project as well.<br />
<br />
But according to EVP of Game Design Rob Pardo, there's not that much report. &quot;We're still super excited about it,&quot; he said. &quot;But it's still... <a href="http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=18853&amp;count=0#ixzz0yO9rquLu" target="_blank">Read more<br />
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<b>3. Halflife: (<u>considered</u>) <br />
</b><br />
PC Gamer caught up with Gabe Newell, the CEO and co-founder of Valve, the company behind &quot;Half-Life&quot; and &quot;Team Fortress,&quot; to find out if there have been any talks of a &quot;Half-Life&quot; movie.<br />
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&quot;Where we got into this direction was after 'Half-Life 1' had shipped. There was a whole bunch of meetings with people from Hollywood,&quot; Newell explained. &quot;Directors down there wanted to make a 'Half-Life' movie and stuff... <a href="http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=18817&amp;count=33#ixzz0yOB8iM00" target="_blank">Read More:</a><br />
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<b>4. Warcraft:</b><br />
<br />
This movie has been rumored for a while now and it looks like it is finally going to happen, it is rumored that the movie will be directed by Sam Raimi (Spiderman) but untill more info is available this fanpage can be use for updates: <a href="http://www.warcraft-themovie.com/index.html" target="_blank">Click Here.</a><br />
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<i>Will update with more later</i></div>

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			<dc:creator>Droolmonster</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Some pleasant afternoon reading. Topic: a of big civil engineering project. [56K!]]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:43:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*Drill Down: Going Deep With NYC&#8217;s Second Avenue Subway Project* 
By Daniel Dumas 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>Drill Down: Going Deep With NYC&#8217;s Second Avenue Subway Project</b><br />
By Daniel Dumas<br />
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<b>NEW YORK CITY</b> &#8212; When it's finally completed in 2016, New York City's Second Avenue Subway Line will be the culmination of 75 years worth of planning, millions of tons of extracted slag, and over $17 billion in spending. But that's not the point. What's important is that this long-awaited public transportation option will connect thousands of people from Harlem to the Lower East Side. If New York City is the heart of the world, this route will certainly be one of its major arteries.<br />
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Wired Science descended seven stories beneath Manhattan to uncover the tempestuous history of the line, speak with the men and women excavating it, and meet the literal spearhead of the project: an 800-foot long, two-story-tall tunnel-boring machine capable of chewing through 60 feet of subterranean rock every day.<br />
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Photo: Jonathan Snyder/Wired.com<br />
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<img src="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/wp-content/gallery/second_avenue_subway/_MG_0250.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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The need for a subway line under Second Avenue stupendously goes all the way back to 1919. At the conclusion of World War I, New York City&#8217;s Public Service Commission looked for a way to relieve mounting traffic and pedestrian congestion in Manhattan. City engineer Daniel L. Turner devised an ambitious plan that added subway routes beneath just about every<br />
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Manhattan avenue running north to south along with lines that connected Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island. The centerpiece of this plan was a gargantuan six-track line that ran underneath Second Avenue.<br />
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Ten years after his proposal, the Board of Transportation greenlit a version of Turner&#8217;s complicated proposal that included his plan for a huge thoroughfare running along Second Avenue and earmarked $98,900,000 for it (over $1.2 billion in today&#8217;s dollars). But when the stock market plummeted and the economy imploded in October of that year, funding for the line evaporated. And it would become money, not technology or personnel or politics that would remain the line&#8217;s greatest hurdle for the next seven and a half decades.<br />
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Above: Workers repair the massive iron struts that keep the launch box walls from collapsing.<br />
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Photo: Jonathan Snyder/Wired.com<br />
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<img src="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/wp-content/gallery/second_avenue_subway/_MG_0127.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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There would be other attempts through the years to jumpstart the project. A serious attempt was made in 1939 only to have the United States&#8217; entry into World War II put the project on hiatus. More delays came because of astronomical increases in building material costs during the Korean War. Then a stagnant economy in the 1970s coupled with one of the worst financial crises in New York&#8217;s history, plus a mass population exodus to the suburbs, stalled production again. It wasn&#8217;t until the financial boom of the '90s in conjunction with an influx of people back into the city that the subway line under Second Avenue was finally seen not only as a real possibility, but also as a required necessity.<br />
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In 2005 NYC voters passed a transportation bond that jumpstarted the project. Some $337 million was earmarked for the tunneling and the project finally got underway.<br />
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Above: The control station of the tunnel-boring machine. Most operations are handled via a touchscreen interface.<br />
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Photo: Jonathan Snyder/Wired.com<br />
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When the Second Avenue project was first conceived in the early 20th century, tunnel boring usually meant one thing: dynamite. And lots of it.<br />
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At the time, safety precautions and explosives did not necessarily go hand in hand. In fact, during the construction of the Pennsylvania tunnels that run underneath the East and Hudson rivers, so many workers died (from explosives, cave-ins and other assorted hazards) that officials sent bodies to the Bronx and Brooklyn in the hopes of concealing their negligence. Eventually the story broke, and amid the turmoil, the workers united to form what is now known as the Local 147 &#8212; the same workers&#8217; union (known as the sandhogs) that is handling the drilling today.<br />
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And they still use dynamite.<br />
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Above: Clockwise from top left: Local 15 mechanic Joseph Sammarco, electrician Alan Bates electrician, chief geologist Scott Chestman, wielder Wendell James.<br />
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Photo: Jonathan Snyder/Wired.com<br />
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<img src="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/wp-content/gallery/second_avenue_subway/_MG_0324.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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In 2007 ground was broken on 96th Street to create a launch box &#8212; a seven-story-deep, 1000-yard-long, and 75-foot-wide rectangle that would act as housing for the enormous tunnel-boring machine that would do most of the drilling for the line and would later be transformed into a subway station. Workers used a combination of high explosives and heavy machinery to carve out the launch box in a little under three years.<br />
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But to create an ideal subway tunnel, you need to drill it with giant drills. That&#8217;s where the enormous tunnel-boring machines come in. This two-story-tall, one-million-pound, 800-foot-long machine is designed to bore through 20 yards of rock face in a single day.<br />
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Above: The face of the boring machine contains 44 steel cutters and weighs 500 tons.<br />
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Photo: Jonathan Snyder/Wired.com<br />
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The drill is placed on a track where an array of hydraulic pistons presses it forward. As the drill is applied to the rock, the steel discs on its face shred the stone in its path. The resulting debris, called slag, is collected through a set of channels on the drill&#8217;s face and ferried on conveyor belts to the rear of the machine. As more of the rock is drilled, the machine creeps forward along its track. Think of it like a giant earthworm.<br />
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It&#8217;s not spectacular to see the drill spin &#8212; it moves at only about 5 rpm. But it is efficient. If workers used dynamite and conventional mining techniques, they would only be able to clear about half the stone the machine does in the same amount of time.<br />
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Above: This conveyor belt will ferry the 50&#8211;60 feet worth of sledge (a mixture of rock, mud and water) that is excavated by the machines each day. Most of the sledge will be dumped in New Jersey.<br />
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&#8220;The best part of this job is getting to see parts of the Earth no one has ever seen before,&#8221; said Scott Chestman, chief geologist for the Second Avenue subway construction. He spoke rapidly and lovingly of the stone that forms the foundation of his native New York City.<br />
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The rock under Manhattan is unique. Called Manhattan schist, it was forged some 470 million years ago during the formation of the supercontinent Pangaea.<br />
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Unlike the rock beneath nearby Queens and Brooklyn, which is much harder to bore through, the rock in Manhattan is soft and easy to excavate. &quot;It cuts like butter,&#8221; Chestman said.<br />
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Above: A view of the tunnel boring machine from 7 stories above.<br />
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There are no fossils or archeological relics or precious metals. No pockets of oil or huge amounts of groundwater. The drill just effortlessly bores a hole into the earth leaving a smooth, beautiful cylinder behind. It&#8217;s sort of ironic, after so much turbulence, the actual act of boring underneath Manhattan for this line is turning out to be the easiest part of the whole endeavor.<br />
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That could change though. As the project continues, geologists will have to negotiate a latticework of preexisting tunnels, pipes and cables. There are also pockets of sand, silt and clay, all of which could make drilling tough.<br />
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Above: The beginning of the 22-foot-diameter tunnel. The machine will churn through the rock with almost 3 million pounds of force. That&#8217;s about the same amount of power as 50 747 jet engines.<br />
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For the next year, the giant drill will chew its way through the Manhattan schist until it reaches the 63rd Street line. Upon reaching that juncture, the machine will be reversed out of its tunnel and moved to drill another parallel tunnel all the way to 63rd Street again. Estimates for completion of the tunneling are around November 2011, although many critics point out that unforeseen issues in funding, stability of surrounding buildings, and personnel could delay the project by years.<br />
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But eventually the line will be completed. The new line, called the T, will operate from 125th Street to Hanover Square. A grand opening is optimistically scheduled for 2016. Once it gets going, it will transport over 200,000 riders per day.<br />
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The cost in both time and money is immense though. After over 75 years of false starts, billions of dollars, and untold numbers of hours worked, today&#8217;s New Yorkers will finally have the subway line generations have been clamoring for.<br />
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Above: Bill Goodrich of the MTA speaks with reporters.<br />
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:39:43 GMT</pubDate>
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				You've been extremely helpful, so bugger off: What started out as a routine study of group behavior ended up turning a bit surreal. According to the authors of a new paper, they started out trying to find out how long a group would tolerate members that abused the common good. In the process, they found that members who put the most into the common good were quickly expelled from the group. Not entirely believing it, they replicated the findings—twice. Some of the hate comes from the overly officious group members, who viewed those who gave more than they needed to as breaking the rules. But some of it also comes from people who think that altruistic behavior like this simply raises expectations unnecessarily.<br />
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Bonus points go to the people who put the press release together for the best two opening sentences I've probably read all year: &quot;You know those goody-two-shoes who volunteer for every task and thanklessly take on the annoying details nobody else wants to deal with? That's right: Other people really can't stand them.&quot;
			
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				PULLMAN, Wash. -- You know those goody-two-shoes who volunteer for every task and thanklessly take on the annoying details nobody else wants to deal with?<br />
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That's right: Other people really can't stand them.<br />
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Four separate studies led by a Washington State University social psychologist have found that unselfish workers who are the first to throw their hat in the ring are also among those that coworkers most want to, in effect, vote off the island.<br />
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&quot;It's not hard to find examples but we were the first to show this happens and have explanations for why,&quot; said Craig Parks, lead author of &quot;The Desire to Expel Unselfish Members from the Group&quot; in the current Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.<br />
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The phenomenon has implications for business work groups, volunteer organizations, non-profit projects, military units, and environmental efforts, an interest of Parks' coauthor and former PhD student, Asako Stone.<br />
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Parks and Stone found that unselfish colleagues come to be resented because they &quot;raise the bar&quot; for what is expected of everyone. As a result, workers feel the new standard will make everyone else look bad.<br />
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It doesn't matter that the overall welfare of the group or the task at hand is better served by someone's unselfish behavior, Parks said.<br />
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&quot;What is objectively good, you see as subjectively bad,&quot; he said.<br />
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The do-gooders are also seen as deviant rule breakers. It's as if they're giving away Monopoly money so someone can stay in the game, irking other players to no end.<br />
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The studies gave participants—introductory psychology students—pools of points that they could keep or give up for an immediate reward of meal service vouchers. Participants were also told that giving up points would improve the group's chance of receiving a monetary reward.<br />
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In reality, the participants were playing in fake groups of five. Most of the fictitious four would make seemingly fair swaps of one point for each voucher, but one of the four would often make lopsided exchanges—greedily giving up no points and taking a lot of vouchers, or unselfishly giving up a lot of points and taking few vouchers.<br />
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Most participants later said they would not want to work with the greedy colleague again—an expected result seen in previous studies.<br />
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But a majority of participants also said they would not want to work with the unselfish colleague again. They frequently said, &quot;the person is making me look bad&quot; or is breaking the rules. Occasionally, they would suspect the person had ulterior motives.<br />
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Parks said he would now like to look at how the do-gooders themselves react to being rejected. While some may indeed have ulterior motives, he said it's more likely they actually are working for the good of an organization.<br />
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Excluded from the group, they may say, &quot;enough already&quot; and simply give up.<br />
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&quot;But it's also possible,&quot; he said, &quot;that they may actually try even harder.&quot;
			
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			<description>As many of you may know, the forums have been down for an unhealthy amount of time this weekend. Not just that, but the website has been fucked and...</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:32:45 GMT</pubDate>
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Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55mgeVlcL4 
 
Then watch this:...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>There's really no other way to describe this.<br />
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Watch this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55mgeVlcL4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55mgeVlcL4</a><br />
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Then watch this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X52e1cUQVoY&amp;feature=email" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X52e1...&amp;feature=email</a></div>

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