Desktop Dungeons

[mtarini]

I just *LOVE* this little game!
You can tell it is made with love and devotion.
It is sound and nice. Full of ideas and well balanced. The concept *ROCKS*!
FIVE STARS ^____^
A masterpiece.
thank you!


Mini-suggestions (cosmetics):

1) The "increase stats" icons currently look like the icon of increased stat.

Instead, I would make them "object icons", looking like typical objects you pick up in roguelike games:
- "increase attack": a stereotypical weapon (sword, so it can stay as it is)
- "increase HP": a stereotypical armor (a chest plate? or maybe a helm?)
- "increase MANA" a stereotypical magic object (a scroll? or maybe a wand or ring)


2) Add icons to embellish dialogs of shops and praying temples
- icon would represent the offer being made, e.g. a weapon in shops and deity symbol in temples.

3) Give 9 different names for each lvl of each creature (leaving icon as is).
For example, goblin would go form "snaga" (lvl1) to "hobgoblin chieftain" (lvl 9).
Dragons has colors, from white to golden. Golem has materials, from mud to steel, etc.

[coendou]

I just *LOVE* this little game!
You can tell it is made with love and devotion.
It is sound and nice. Full of ideas and well balanced. The concept *ROCKS*!
FIVE STARS ^____^
A masterpiece.
thank you!


Mini-suggestions (cosmetics):

1) The "increase stats" icons currently look like the icon of increased stat.

Instead, I would make them "object icons", looking like typical objects you pick up in roguelike games:
- "increase attack": a stereotypical weapon (sword, so it can stay as it is)
- "increase HP": a stereotypical armor (a chest plate? or maybe a helm?)
- "increase MANA" a stereotypical magic object (a scroll? or maybe a wand or ring)


2) Add icons to embellish dialogs of shops and praying temples
- icon would represent the offer being made, e.g. a weapon in shops and deity symbol in temples.

3) Give 9 different names for each lvl of each creature (leaving icon as is).
For example, goblin would go form "snaga" (lvl1) to "hobgoblin chieftain" (lvl 9).
Dragons has colors, from white to golden. Golem has materials, from mud to steel, etc.

1. Don't really like the idea, makes it unnessecary complicated for new players, they would get it quite quickly, but i like the way it is now.

2. Not a bad idea, but since the low graphics, prob hard to make these symbols recognisable.

3. like this idea, but the sprites of those characters should be different according to lvl as well if you implement such a thing(just my opinion)/

[BlackShipsFillt]

1) The "increase stats" icons currently look like the icon of increased stat.

Instead, I would make them "object icons", looking like typical objects you pick up in roguelike games:
- "increase attack": a stereotypical weapon (sword, so it can stay as it is)
- "increase HP": a stereotypical armor (a chest plate? or maybe a helm?)
- "increase MANA" a stereotypical magic object (a scroll? or maybe a wand or ring)
etc.

I like this idea, adds to the flavour of the game (not that the flavour is lacking)... I remember (when I was a new player) the icons were not particularly self explanatory even as they currently stand... making them look like objects will be equally not self explanatory, but will look more appealing. (Isn't there going to be a tooltip feature now anyway)

3) Give 9 different names for each lvl of each creature (leaving icon as is).
For example, goblin would go form "snaga" (lvl1) to "hobgoblin chieftain" (lvl 9).
Dragons has colors, from white to golden. Golem has materials, from mud to steel, etc.

I don't know if they need unique names for every level, however I like the idea of fun flavourful variants, like the steel, gold or mud golem, which could have different names and different appearances. Coming up with 10 might be a bit much however, and implementing this at all it might also call for monster ability adjustments, (eg mud golems = 25% magic resist, gold = 65% magic resist) which then affects balancing, but also creates more dungeon variation (because having high level golems in a level will effect player strategies). Also I would like different flavours of the Meatman, like chicken, lamb or smokey rib.

Ooh Ooh. I don't know if this is a planned feature or has already been suggested, but a polymorph glyph. Turns enemies into equal level goats, but maybe only for an attack or two (goats have magic resist).

Also, the +20% damage glypth is definitely useful, but not the most exciting. How about having a +60% damage glyph at a higher mana cost, or even a double strike glyph (I'm all for greater dungeon variations, though I realise balancing must be difficult at this stage).

[coendou]

I'm not to fond of the increasing stats of monsters like stated above, it would make the first few lavels way to easy, and the last few increasingly hard, leading to more insolvable games.

[iceblademush]

Also, changing the colours of the monsters would leave to a confusing looking dungeon, with too much going on. Right now every monster and glyph is pretty much instantly recognisable due to the colour of it, if you have 9 x variations it would be really confusing!

[salejemaster]

Hey, can anyone give an update or ETA on v0.5, a while back i think you mentioned it would be out in 2 weeks, don't exactly know how much time has passed since then so just asking :), peace

[Shadow_Con]

Hey, can anyone give an update or ETA on v0.5, a while back i think you mentioned it would be out in 2 weeks, don't exactly know how much time has passed since then so just asking :), peace

patience is a virtue ;) and i dont think even nandrew knows exactly when yet.

[Nferno]

Nandrew, first I'd like to say that this is such an addictive game you have created. The amount of frustration and enjoyment this has brought me only comes on par with the Megaman series. Holy ****, they're both so difficult, yet I can't put them down.

Can't wait for the next version to come out, I'll have my download finger ready.

Oh, and I've found it impossible to kill Aequitas. Damn that beard!



Long live the DD.

[Squid]

Oh, and I've found it impossible to kill Aequitas. Damn that beard!

Aeq is the easiest boss imo, have you killed any of the others?

[Nferno]

Aeq is the easiest boss imo, have you killed any of the others?

I have killed the 'Meaty Monster' I think it's called. "Don't stare at me. I'm not infringing on copyrighted material!" or something to that effect :)

It just works out that every time I reach Aequitas I have just enough health to get one-shotted and no resources left. Damn, I need to manage my potions better :/

[salejemaster]

I have killed the 'Meaty Monster' I think it's called. "Don't stare at me. I'm not infringing on copyrighted material!" or something to that effect :)

It just works out that every time I reach Aequitas I have just enough health to get one-shotted and no resources left. Damn, I need to manage my potions better :/

I see on your screenshot that you are level 9 when attacking him it is probably a better idea to start attacking him when you are level 8 or lower but have more potions and resources, try to save the fireball spell for him kuz he has high damage but low hp and has no physical or magic damage reduction

[Nandrew]

Thanks for all of the idea throwarounds -- it's kinda cool seeing them discussed and bandied by the community members themselves. :P

Tentatively announcing a release for Friday (or maybe Monday if I take the weekend for testing). Probably haven't been working nearly as much on this thing as I should have (full-time game proggies are also my concern!), but the release should have these at minimum:

- Expanded, gradual unlock systems to keep vets occupied for a while. ;)
- Three new classes
- Four new challenge dungeons
- Two new races
- Revamped religion system

That's aside from graphical changes, interface overhauls, bugfixes and all those other little things which take a huge chunk of time but which nobody ever really notices. :P

[salejemaster]

HHHYYYYPPPEEEEE, can you feel it :), might as well go to sleep till Friday :P?
BTW you guys should be thanking me for this swift new release, I mean I was asking about it only yesterday and then all of a sudden nandrew just cracks and announces the release date, coincidence I THINK NOT!

jk jk :P

[Speusippus]

I'm really curious to know what the two new races are going to be! The way it is, there's one race corresponding to each of the five main stats (that I can think of without going into the game to look)--Attack value, hit points, mana points, healing potions, and mana potions. What else could there be? Perhaps a race that turns glyphs into money? That seems like it would be really hard to balance. A race that has some kind of racial power that you activate by consuming a glyph, maybe? What kind of powers could they be?

What could it be? What could it be?

[Speusippus]

I see on your screenshot that you are level 9 when attacking him it is probably a better idea to start attacking him when you are level 8 or lower but have more potions and resources, try to save the fireball spell for him kuz he has high damage but low hp and has no physical or magic damage reduction

Meat monster is low damange high hp

[The Dash]

Thanks for all of the idea throwarounds -- it's kinda cool seeing them discussed and bandied by the community members themselves. :P

Tentatively announcing a release for Friday (or maybe Monday if I take the weekend for testing). Probably haven't been working nearly as much on this thing as I should have (full-time game proggies are also my concern!), but the release should have these at minimum:

- Expanded, gradual unlock systems to keep vets occupied for a while. ;)
- Three new classes
- Four new challenge dungeons
- Two new races
- Revamped religion system

That's aside from graphical changes, interface overhauls, bugfixes and all those other little things which take a huge chunk of time but which nobody ever really notices. :P

AND A MUTE BUTTON KTHNX =P

Seriously, dont know why but i cant stand the sound in this game, i replaced all the sound files with blanks so i could listen to my own music while playing. So a simple sound on/off at the game start would be hugely appreciated

[Nandrew]

Yeah, don't worry, the mute button is definitely going in! I understand that people want to be more stealthy at work too ... I feel like a bit of an accessory to a crime there, but what the hey? :P

[mtarini]

I like this little game so much I've got to elaborate a bit on it.

Here it is:
I think DD is a META-roguelike.
DD is to a roguelike as a roguelike is to War of Warcraft.
DD : roguelike :: roguelike : WOW

Let me explain.

On your roguelike game, you see little plain icons (or ascii letters) on the screen and, in your fantasy, you imagine... being in the dark dungeon where you face hideous Yetis and aggressive Rust monsters and you find enhanced stylish elven armors glowing with magic power. The graphics is up to you.

In DD, you collect a plain attack +10% bonus and what you imagine is... playing a roguelike game and finding a "Well-balanced [+13 speed] Holy Katana [+10 str] [+7 AC] [+15 damage against zombies] [uses both hands]" as a replacement of your previously used combo of "Round Steel Buckler of Fire [190 Resistance] [+20 protection from flames] [-5 attack speed]" and "Enhanced Heavy [+5 damage] Cutter [armour pierce +5] [bonus against shields]", for a net gain in your overall *average* killing factor of about the said ten percent.

[coendou]

Meat monster is low damange high hp

he was talking aequitas ^^

[Nandrew]

I like this little game so much I've got to elaborate a bit on it.

Here it is:
I think DD is a META-roguelike.
DD is to a roguelike as a roguelike is to War of Warcraft.
DD : roguelike :: roguelike : WOW

Let me explain.

On your roguelike game, you see little plain icons (or ascii letters) on the screen and, in your fantasy, you imagine... being in the dark dungeon where you face hideous Yetis and aggressive Rust monsters and you find enhanced stylish elven armors glowing with magic power. The graphics is up to you.

In DD, you collect a plain attack +10% bonus and what you imagine is... playing a roguelike game and finding a "Well-balanced [+13 speed] Holy Katana [+10 str] [+7 AC] [+15 damage against zombies] [uses both hands]" as a replacement of your previously used combo of "Round Steel Buckler of Fire [190 Resistance] [+20 protection from flames] [-5 attack speed]" and "Enhanced Heavy [+5 damage] Cutter [armour pierce +5] [bonus against shields]", for a net gain in your overall *average* killing factor of about the said ten percent.

Holy crap, you just blew my mind right there!