Desktop Dungeons

[dislekcia]

Me too! Come on ye great gods of Desktop Dungeon. We need to "collect" verb more stuff!

At least another teaser image for us to salivate over?

Also, is the next one the last free one before you gents switch over to a pay based one built in your own engine? (Or use Unity for it?)

Rodain is working non-stop to get the next freeware version out. At least, we think he is. He's been making lots of funny noises recently...

As to whether the next version will be the last freeware one or not: We're not entirely sure. It's likely that it will be, mainly because it's taking longer and longer to add new features to the GM version for testing. Compared to the framework we've been building in Unity, it takes ages to make small changes or track down bugs resulting from those changes.

We might come up with something that we want to try out on players with the GM version, so there might be one more freeware release after this one, but that's rather unlikely. We want the full to be out ASAP, just like you guys do :)

[Lekon]

Rodain is working non-stop to get the next freeware version out. At least, we think he is. He's been making lots of funny noises recently...

As to whether the next version will be the last freeware one or not: We're not entirely sure. It's likely that it will be, mainly because it's taking longer and longer to add new features to the GM version for testing. Compared to the framework we've been building in Unity, it takes ages to make small changes or track down bugs resulting from those changes.

We might come up with something that we want to try out on players with the GM version, so there might be one more freeware release after this one, but that's rather unlikely. We want the full to be out ASAP, just like you guys do :)

Spiffy. Woot. Awesomeness. Other happy noises!

Can't wait to throw some money at you either, once the pay version comes out. One of the few games out there I've thought "Damn, I really want these guys to make some money" instead of "They're ... charging for this?"

[dislekcia]

Can't wait to throw some money at you either, once the pay version comes out. One of the few games out there I've thought "Damn, I really want these guys to make some money" instead of "They're ... charging for this?"

:D

Careful, we might start taking pre-orders or something if people keep saying stuff like that...

[Nandrew]

Heh. Next version is slower than expected, but I'll confirm that I'm now working at full pace again after a rather long hiatus. Sorry for the inconvenience, a lot of people have been wondering about this next iteration. :P

[GG Crono]

Careful, we might start taking pre-orders or something if people keep saying stuff like that...

*whips out checkbook* Name your price!

[Patashu]

By the way, a possible oversight:
If you move onto an altar, and in the process reveal a boss monster, you see the altar's description for a split second before the boss monster's prompt overrides it. Or at least I think it was an altar.

[Patashu]

Found another bug:
If I click a tile, but my cursor rapidly moves onto another tile with a monster on it, it'll count as though I hit that monster. I managed to trigger this with a monster who was two tiles away!

[dislekcia]

By the way, a possible oversight:
If you move onto an altar, and in the process reveal a boss monster, you see the altar's description for a split second before the boss monster's prompt overrides it. Or at least I think it was an altar.

That's simply due to boss popups being higher priority than altar messages. After all, you can get the altar message again by moving off it and back on. This doesn't happen in the new version - altars and shops work differently in the interface now.

Found another bug:
If I click a tile, but my cursor rapidly moves onto another tile with a monster on it, it'll count as though I hit that monster. I managed to trigger this with a monster who was two tiles away!

That's because the action happens when you release the mouse button. Most applications behave this way :) Is it a problem?

[Patashu]

Maybe you don't understand what I mean. I click on a tile A, but quickly move move my mouse to tile B. The game then performs TWO actions from one click: Moving me to tile A and attacking the monster at tile B. Even if tile A is two or more tiles away from tile B this can still happen.

Desktop Dungeons is a little laggy on my laptop, so maybe it's a lot easier for it to happen on my box than other people's.

[dislekcia]

Maybe you don't understand what I mean. I click on a tile A, but quickly move move my mouse to tile B. The game then performs TWO actions from one click: Moving me to tile A and attacking the monster at tile B. Even if tile A is two or more tiles away from tile B this can still happen.

Desktop Dungeons is a little laggy on my laptop, so maybe it's a lot easier for it to happen on my box than other people's.

So you mean that you'll attack from a square that's not expressly next to the enemy you're attacking? If so, that's pretty odd. Can you do any other things that way, like attack enemies that haven't been revealed yet?

[Patashu]

I'm not sure - I've only managed to trigger it randomly so far, what with the having-to-be-on-the-same-frame-or-so and all. It still does something that is unintuitive (performing two actions with one click, one of the actions not being something you intended) so it still counts as a bug to me.

Try using a slow-your-computer-down program like http://www.lazygame.com/speedgear/index.html . With luck you'll just have it happen by randomly playing.

[Nandrew]

BUMPDATE!

Version 0.14 is available!

Hit things!
Earn score!
Win games!
And have fun!

[ortoslon]

now that damage is shown graphically, you should make BYSSEPS increase damage by a third rather than 30% since it's visually easier to cut a bar in thirds than to imagine three tenths

[FuzzYspo0N]

but 5/4's of people cant do bar graphs!

Been playing new one, its rocking. Very cool update so far, no way to submit scores yet? or did i miss it?

[dislekcia]

now that damage is shown graphically, you should make BYSSEPS increase damage by a third rather than 30% since it's visually easier to cut a bar in thirds than to imagine three tenths

Could be an idea, didn't want to change the number at the moment because it might mess up the balance a little too much (mana cost for possible reward is a big thing in the game, which is why the old Vamp was so overpowered).

Most people seem to just go "Oh, I need a little more damage!" when they see a sliver of health left on the enemy's damage prediction, that's what BYSSEPS is for ;) - Well, that and pre-casting.

but 5/4's of people cant do bar graphs!

Been playing new one, its rocking. Very cool update so far, no way to submit scores yet? or did i miss it?

You nearly gave me a heart attack, but I've just confirmed that you can submit ranked scores. We took the button out of non-ranked games because it was confusing having a button that basically only told you not to click it.

[Lekon]

Only problem. I seem to have triggered a little crash. Lothlorian campaign, Rogue, with Earth Mother. Anytime I try to IMAWALL someone, it crashes with an invalid variable. Error message below. if I hit ignore, I received no piety, and the monster was stoned as normal.

Aside from this lil problem. I love the new system for gods. Very well done.


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ERROR in
action number 1
of Mouse Event for Glob Left Released
for object Roomwatch:

In script RoomClick:
Error in code at line 657:
if (nu.kind != E_PLANT) {

at position 33: Unknown variable kind

___________________________________________
ERROR in
action number 1
of Mouse Event for Glob Left Released
for object Roomwatch:

In script RoomClick:
Error in code at line 657:
if (nu.kind != E_PLANT) {

at position 33: Unknown variable kind

[dislekcia]

Just found that bug this side... Aeq had set up a nice little bloodgarden for the plants too!

Fixed (along with another bug where the Earthmother wasn't giving enough piety when you followed her late-game) and re-uploaded. Sorry about that.

[Lekon]

Just found that bug this side... Aeq had set up a nice little bloodgarden for the plants too!

Fixed (along with another bug where the Earthmother wasn't giving enough piety when you followed her late-game) and re-uploaded. Sorry about that.

Think I've found another little bug. BludtoPowah. When you are standing on it without picking it up, it has the old description of life to mana conversion cost. When you pick it up, it has the new ability listed (Active/Inactive)

And just to say it: Love the change to the glyph.

Edit: Bug or Balance change? APHEELSIK's poison goes away if you fireball the guy you just poisoned.

[dislekcia]

Think I've found another little bug. BludtoPowah. When you are standing on it without picking it up, it has the old description of life to mana conversion cost. When you pick it up, it has the new ability listed (Active/Inactive)

And just to say it: Love the change to the glyph.

Edit: Bug or Balance change? APHEELSIK's poison goes away if you fireball the guy you just poisoned.

Fixed the Bludtopowah text. Will re-upload shortly. That's the last of the quick changes, unless something really showstopping rocks up. There are going to be some text misalignments and stuff in the new interface. We'll deal with those in one big lump.

Apheelsik's been re-balanced. As soon as you deal any damage, poison wears off. It's still effective, but shouldn't allow high level kills too easily.

[Lekon]

Fixed the Bludtopowah text. Will re-upload shortly. That's the last of the quick changes, unless something really showstopping rocks up. There are going to be some text misalignments and stuff in the new interface. We'll deal with those in one big lump.

Apheelsik's been re-balanced. As soon as you deal any damage, poison wears off. It's still effective, but shouldn't allow high level kills too easily.

Ahhh. So you have to keep recasting it each time you hit someone. I don't like that personally... but I can see the balance in it. Makes sense. Now we just need a "OMGANUKE" spell for AOE fun and the game's perfect!