Why I think anime is ****

[Azimuth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlLFNM_1o-8

Yeahyeahyeah, LOST IN TRANSLATION, I'm sure. Still. Also, LOL.

[Flangenimblick]

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


I just love the final line after the line.

Awesome.

[Nferno]

Good guy is good.

[Azimuth]

I just love the final line after the line.

I knoooow. It's such an outrageous non sequitur.

[Graal]

Inb4 different strokes for different folks.

[KilR8]

STOOOOOPID Japanese Anime crap..........

[Sir PaniCore]

She Blushed after he said that?!?!?!?!

[brazed]

:/

Jesus.

Wonder what the voice actors must have been thinking...

[LazyDemoni]

But stuff does get lost in translation. That clip was pretty funny but the dubbing itself was poor. It probably sounded a lot better and made more sense in Japanese (in before weeaboo). That said some fansubs are hilarious too:

[Miktar]

Judging a whole medium by a few cherry-picked examples of people making **** product with the medium, and then wilfully avoiding the great works in the medium just to affirm one's personal pet peeve, is always such lul.

I'll never understand people who lump "anime" together like it's supposed to mean a specific thing, more specific than Japanese Animation, which incidentally, would then include The Last Unicorn and Thundercats, since they were both produced by Japanese animation teams (Ghibli), so they're technically "anime".

It's like listening only to Britney Spears, and then saying "I hate music" because of it.

Anime is a MEDIUM, like 'comic' or 'painting' - it is not content, it is a container. It is filled, often, with ****ty content, but it also has amazing content. Disregarding the amazing stuff because of the bad stuff, to me personally, my opinion ohmigawd, seems rather lame.

Edit: But yes, that clip is very LOL, no disagreement there.

[KilR8]

Judging a whole medium by a few cherry-picked examples of people making **** product with the medium, and then wilfully avoiding the great works in the medium just to affirm one's personal pet peeve, is always such lul.

I'll never understand people who lump "anime" together like it's supposed to mean a specific thing, more specific than Japanese Animation, which incidentally, would then include The Last Unicorn and Thundercats, since they were both produced by Japanese animation teams (Ghibli), so they're technically "anime".

It's like listening only to Britney Spears, and then saying "I hate music" because of it.

Anime is a MEDIUM, like 'comic' or 'painting' - it is not content, it is a container. It is filled, often, with ****ty content, but it also has amazing content. Disregarding the amazing stuff because of the bad stuff, to me personally, my opinion ohmigawd, seems rather lame.

But what if i think that the 'container' is full of crap, so I can say "I hate anime"..........WIN for me!!!!!

[Miktar]

But what if i think that the 'container' is full of crap, so I can say "I hate anime"..........WIN for me!!!!!

No, you're just full of crap, so be quiet.

[KilR8]

No, you're just full of crap, so be quiet.

Hmmm okay nice one.....

But seriously what if there are people that dont like anime as a whole and hate everything to do with it???

[Flangenimblick]

non sequitur.

And now I just learnt a new term :D



Methinks I have to spread the quote around a bit... Lets see how many lulz it will generate from people who have no idea what I'm talking about. Weeee!

[Azimuth]

Judging a whole medium by a few cherry-picked examples of people making **** product with the medium, and then wilfully avoiding the great works in the medium just to affirm one's personal pet peeve, is always such lul.

I'll never understand people who lump "anime" together like it's supposed to mean a specific thing, more specific than Japanese Animation, which incidentally, would then include The Last Unicorn and Thundercats, since they were both produced by Japanese animation teams (Ghibli), so they're technically "anime".

It's like listening only to Britney Spears, and then saying "I hate music" because of it.

Anime is a MEDIUM, like 'comic' or 'painting' - it is not content, it is a container. It is filled, often, with ****ty content, but it also has amazing content. Disregarding the amazing stuff because of the bad stuff, to me personally, my opinion ohmigawd, seems rather lame.

Edit: But yes, that clip is very LOL, no disagreement there.

Someone eat your sense of humour? I don't much like anime, but the thread title wasn't SUPERSERIALS.

Also, so what? I've seen quite a lot of anime. I haven't liked most of it. I'm not bothered about looking for something I might like, for the same reason I'm not going to listen to all of Britney Spears's albums just in case I miss out on a song I'd like. I have other stuff to do.

[Flangenimblick]

Sorry for the double-post.

Hmmm okay nice one.....

But seriously what if there are people that dont like anime as a whole and hate everything to do with it???

I had a friend like you. Hated everything and anything to do with anime based on a few crap shows he had seen. Then I sent him Gurren Lagann and he hasn't looked back. He even sends me new anime and watches shows like Azumanga Daioh etc.

Point is, there is a lot of crap out there, but there is bound to be something you like. Generalising is just silly.


Also, without Anime, how would we be able to make fun of the Japs? Well, of course there is other stuff, but anime memes are some of the funniest things out there!

[Dead!Raven]

Anime can be really awesome ( Death note), but on the flip side, it can be eye-gougingly terrible, But I suppose thats the same any any form of entertainment. More often then not, the dubbed versions of shows are worse that their un-dubbed counterparts.

[James Donaldson]

"BLESS YOU, THANKS!"

I've seen Orguss 2 on the long dead Scifi channel, so it wasn't such a shock -still funny even given the situation.

Though Orguss 2 was good IMO -there's so much worse anime out there.

[Cleric]

but anime memes are some of the funniest things out there!

And that, is where I lost you. Sure, there's some good anime, but the general culture of it turns me off. Also, what if it's the style of the presentation that turns you off.

Miktar, your example is flawed. Not watching anime because you don't like what you've seen is far more like not listening to R&B because you don't like what you've heard. It's a genre/style of film, not an entertainment medium all on it's own.

But yeah, Ghost in the Shell, Evangelion, and that Vampire series that I always forget the name of (Bloodhunter mebe?) were cool enough, but for every one of those, there's a ton of Tank Police-esque garbage. But I am always open to new anime, but only if it's recommended by my other anime averse friends. It would take a lot for a Naruto fan to convince me to watch a new anime.


EDIT: Also, allow me to point out that the vid is blocked at work, so I am unable to just reply "Lulz" for now.

[Miktar]

Someone eat your sense of humour? I don't much like anime, but the thread title wasn't SUPERSERIALS.

Also, so what? I've seen quite a lot of anime. I haven't liked most of it. I'm not bothered about looking for something I might like, for the same reason I'm not going to listen to all of Britney Spears's albums just in case I miss out on a song I'd like. I have other stuff to do.

Someone's uptight today. Nah, I did lol at the clip. I was just making a point about content vs container. You're free to hate what you want to hate for whatever reasons, never said you weren't. Never said you should go watch all anime either.

I'm sooooo sorry I didn't just reply with 'LOL!' and not contribute a single thought to the thread. I keep forgetting this is a calorie-free environment. :P

Miktar, your example is flawed. Not watching anime because you don't like what you've seen is far more like not listening to R&B because you don't like what you've heard. It's a genre/style of film, not an entertainment medium all on it's own.

I disagree. Anime is like sequential art (comics). It's a medium, not a genre/style. Read Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics" for a good explanation of the difference between genre/style and a medium, it's applicable here.

It would take a lot for a Naruto fan to convince me to watch a new anime.

Just like it would take a lot for a heavy-metal fanatic to convince me to listen to the newest expletive-filled bad-music terrible-singing thrash-metal. But I'd still listen to other genres of music, because music is a medium, not genre/style.

Anime comes in every genre, every style, because it's a versatile medium. There is photorealistic anime, there is hyper-cartoon anime, there is serious drama anime (Grave of the Fireflies, for example), and there is irreverent anime (Dragon Half).

Just like comics come in all forms, from serious graphic novels (Watchmen) to sunday funnies (Garfield), it would be weird to ignore all comics, sequential art, because you didn't like Watchmen, or Garfield. Disliking a medium because of some content, just seems strange to me, that's all.

Because anime is a medium, it does contain genres and styles, like shonen, shojo, etcchi, etc. And those genres and styles have their tropes and memes, which is what most people latch on it. People like the shonen (for boys) anime of Naruto because of it's tropes, and thus, they follow other animes that have those same tropes, just like R&B has it's tropes, and people who like those tropes look for it in other R&B music, or they transition, whatever.

But anime isn't a singular thing, so regarding it as a singular style or genre would be quite incorrect.