University

[Mic]

Trust me, you should. Those things are HORRID. Been there, done that.

Why?! I was just about to trust my mathematic abilities again :(

[BattleMoose]

Speaking of maths, I have just been thrust into a world of maths, again. I did 2 (3) years of engineering maths, 2001-2003. And now when I really need that stuff, having to relearn all of it... >.< Although at least I don't have to write any tests/exams.

Protip: Do the tutorials, like do them, make sure you understand all of every one. Its a lot of effort but will serve you well, and do them weekly.

[Toxxyc]

Why?! I was just about to trust my mathematic abilities again :(

Listen to BattleMoose over there. If you did your work, and managed to complete all your assignments and you actually know what's going on there, you'll be fine. I don't know where you study, but the BIng course I did at Tuks has the main focus of trying to make you feel illiterate. They will try to ask you the most annoying and troublesome questions they can, and tricking you into crappy answers is their goal. Just keep your cool, and think twice about writing something down.

Good luck man, and sorry about the "bubble burster", it was a bit of a long day at work...

[T_Kill3r]

It wasn't TOO bad in the end. Only 2 sums where I didn't reach an answer (9 out of the 70 marks) so I think I should be alright.

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It wasn't TOO bad in the end. Only 2 sums where I didn't reach an answer (9 out of the 70 marks) so I think I should be alright

Yeah, wasn't that bad, think I should be able to make a pass perhaps even more.

[T_Kill3r]

Yeah, wasn't that bad, think I should be able to make a pass perhaps even more.

The problems I struggled with were 4 and 5. Number 4 I got to a trinomial which I couldn't solve without the formula and a calculator so I'm assuming I started off doing something wrong. Number 5 I had two equations but I kept ending up with 0=0.
Oh well, atleast tomorrow is AppMaths. Not a lot of work to go through.

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The problems I struggled with were 4 and 5. Number 4 I got to a trinomial which I couldn't solve without the formula and a calculator so I'm assuming I started off doing something wrong. Number 5 I had two equations but I kept ending up with 0=0.
Oh well, atleast tomorrow is AppMaths. Not a lot of work to go through

Wait, are you at Maties as well. Since me and Mic are I just kind of assumed... Yeah, tomorrow's AppMaths, problem is Eng Maths I really enjoy but AppMaths is plankvervelig. :) Can't get myself to study for it.

[T_Kill3r]

Wait, are you at Maties as well. Since me and Mic are I just kind of assumed... Yeah, tomorrow's AppMaths, problem is Eng Maths I really enjoy but AppMaths is plankvervelig. :) Can't get myself to study for it.

Yep, I am. And I have the same problem with AppMaths....which is why I'm on the internet now >_>

[pArkEr]

So, I've decided to switch over to engineering next year, as I've just realized that I can NEVER sit in front of a PC all day and program. So glad I left this option open.

Awesome thing is, assuming I pass it, I'll get credits for the maths I'm currently doing, and maybe even applied maths. So in a way, the route I took is a bit better than the extended course.

What worries me though, is the way in which some of my friends are struggling. They tell me they've got no idea what goes on in some of the tutorials, and usually end up with a load of zeros and ones. Mind you, they're no slouches, working till late at night and making sure they know what's going on.

[Zoop]

Sounds like I started university a year too early. Had I hanged with you guys I might have passed my year. Oh well, I'll be back where I belong next year. :D

Edit: Also, I can see university ends this week, everybody seems to be either partying or working themselves to death to hand in assignments or study for tests.

[Toxxyc]

The problems I struggled with were 4 and 5. Number 4 I got to a trinomial which I couldn't solve without the formula and a calculator so I'm assuming I started off doing something wrong. Number 5 I had two equations but I kept ending up with 0=0.
Oh well, atleast tomorrow is AppMaths. Not a lot of work to go through.

Well, you should get a mark for 0=0. It is true, is it not?

[XERXES]

So, I've decided to switch over to engineering next year, as I've just realized that I can NEVER sit in front of a PC all day and program. So glad I left this option open.

Awesome thing is, assuming I pass it, I'll get credits for the maths I'm currently doing, and maybe even applied maths. So in a way, the route I took is a bit better than the extended course.

What worries me though, is the way in which some of my friends are struggling. They tell me they've got no idea what goes on in some of the tutorials, and usually end up with a load of zeros and ones. Mind you, they're no slouches, working till late at night and making sure they know what's going on.

The only thing that's really killing me is the Engineering Drawings, IMO it's much harder than Eng Math.

Yep, I am. And I have the same problem with AppMaths....which is why I'm on the internet now >_>

I haven't done any homework for it all year so yeah... Have to study for it.

[Mic]

The only thing that's really killing me is the Engineering Drawings, IMO it's much harder than Eng Math.

Eng/Drawings is a piece of ****, the subject itself doesn't bother me [had EGD in high school] no, what frustrates me is the markers. They are biased. Got bad marks so far and it's just because my marker is a douche.

I haven't done any homework for it all year so yeah... Have to study for it.

Do it, I've done my homework and feel on top of most of the subject matter. Just need to take a look at moments and couple moments. Good luck though, each test you finish is a test you don't have to worry about xD

[T_Kill3r]

Well, you should get a mark for 0=0. It is true, is it not?

Well I had to get values for a and b, both of which kept cancelling out and I'm left with 0=0 or -1=-1. And it definitely wasn't because the equations were true for all a and b.

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Eng/Drawings is a piece of ****, the subject itself doesn't bother me [had EGD in high school] no, what frustrates me is the markers. They are biased. Got bad marks so far and it's just because my marker is a douche.

Lullz, now imagine how I'm feeling... didn't have any drawing subject the moment I stepped into engineering. Not only do I suck in it, the markers are truly strange sometimes, like you said. TBH it's the only subject that I'm afraid I'm on the road to failing. Did I mention I HATE that subject.

[Mic]

Well. Studied the whole day for Applied Maths, and if my tutorials are any inidcation I'm bound to pass. So why do I feel that everyone else is more prepared than I am?

[Toxxyc]

Well I had to get values for a and b, both of which kept cancelling out and I'm left with 0=0 or -1=-1. And it definitely wasn't because the equations were true for all a and b.

Hehe yeah I know, I hated those kind of questions. But if you get 0 = 0 or -1 = -1 then you most probably did something wrong. How about laying out the question for me, see if I can remember stuff I was supposed to know 3 years ago? :)

Eng/Drawings is a piece of ****, the subject itself doesn't bother me [had EGD in high school] no, what frustrates me is the markers. They are biased. Got bad marks so far and it's just because my marker is a douche.

THIS. I mean, WTF is free-hand drawing really? I was taught to work extremely detailed and precise, with tolerances of 1/5mm being barely acceptable. For this reason I got a distinction for EGD in matric, and I loved it. University comes and ****s it all up, just so some ******* with a red pen can tell you that you obviously don't know what you are doing with a pencil and paper when drawing a cube, when I drew huge buildings in the same views with true-to-life proportions and features at school and got really decent responses for it.

/lame.

[hawk]

THIS. I mean, WTF is free-hand drawing really? I was taught to work extremely detailed and precise, with tolerances of 1/5mm being barely acceptable. For this reason I got a distinction for EGD in matric, and I loved it. University comes and ****s it all up, just so some ******* with a red pen can tell you that you obviously don't know what you are doing with a pencil and paper when drawing a cube, when I drew huge buildings in the same views with true-to-life proportions and features at school and got really decent responses for it.

I dunno what engineering you are studying, but the thing is, you are studying to be an engineer. Not a draughtsman. You aren't going to have your drawing board and little rulers and erasing shield with you when you are on site. That's why its freehand, it's more about communicating with other engineers quickly and effectively than drawing precise blueprints. Just because it's freehand doesn't mean it isn't detailed and precise either. Freehand is not = messy.

Also last night Tuks beat Maties. 27 -13 :D

So:

Tuks > Maties > Ikeys

[Toxxyc]

I dunno what engineering you are studying, but the thing is, you are studying to be an engineer. Not a draughtsman. You aren't going to have your drawing board and little rulers and erasing shield with you when you are on site. That's why its freehand, it's more about communicating with other engineers quickly and effectively than drawing precise blueprints. Just because it's freehand doesn't mean it isn't detailed and precise either. Freehand is not = messy.

I studied BIng Electronic Engineering at Tuks. I hated it, so I stopped (due to modules such as EGD). I know what you are getting at, but it's simply easier for me to place more detail into what I want to express, so just drawing a circle and saying "look at this cool ball" simply isn't acceptable to me. I HAVE to draw the striped to let you know it's a soccer ball, a tennis ball or a basket ball, other wise you go and design a hole for the ball and it's too small/big. It's how it should be (for me), IMHO, and as such I hated it when the tutor couldn't see my point of reference. They say you don't have enough time, but I've been drawing all my life (loved drawing as a kid, still sometimes draw cartoons and things just for the hell of it), so I have more than enough time to finish what I want, how I want.

The tutors should realize that not everybody thinks in the same way as they do. I remember a tactic I learned myself at school to make orthographic drawings easier, and it took major convincing from my side to the teacher to show him that I DO understand the conventional way, I just prefer mine better. I convinced him, and he let me use it. If only it was as easy in real life... :/

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Also last night Tuks beat Maties. 27 -13 :D

All that proved is it is sometimes possible for a high school to beat a university... 8)