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    Evolution to be taught in SA schools

    A clash between secular and religious conscience could unfold in South Africa?s education system -- and different interest groups are set to line up against one another. The teaching of evolution to grade 12 learners from next year might trigger an uproar among South African parents, teachers and religious sectors.

    http://www.mg.co.za/ArticleList.aspx...ght__national/

    Well finally!

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    *blinks*

    I was taught evolution in Primary School in South Africa.

    WE HAVE THE CRADLE OF HUMANITY AS A GODDAMN TOURIST ATTRACTION IN SOUTH AFRICA, for pete's sake.

    This is retarded.

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    I was taught basic evolution and cottened on to the clash between religion and evolution.
    Asked the church dude (cant remember rank, name, position, etc)what he thought and he just rambled on about darwin being wrong and God being the only true creator.

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    I remember learning about homo habilis ans homo erectus in STD 3. Never did anything on evolution in matric though. Oh well. It can only be a good thing.

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    Well, i guess if we had Bible class in school back in the day - they can teach evolution. People will still decide to believe in it or not .... but hey - at least we've shot ourselves in both feet.

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    I have never understood how evolution is considered as an attempt to disprove the existence of God. Whose to say that evolution wasn't God's doing? And to anyone who says its an attempt to disprove the existence of God, who are you to question his methods?

    And to Frozenfireside, my priest came up with the same uncertain, weak answer. "It's right because we say it's right." seems to be the thinking most churches use and by using that thinking they narrow their minds and the minds of weaker people who don't have the ability to think for themselves: "Religion is the opium of society".

    Evolution should be taught. No doubt. People should judge for themselves, not be spoon fed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domanskip View Post
    who are you to question his methods?
    Firstly god needs to proved that he exists. Until someone proves that he exists we have to assume that he doesn't. It's impossible to question the motives of someone that doesn't exist.

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    You guys just don't know when to stop do you.

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    Okay, show's over. Back to heterosexuality for you.

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    Good gravy, must EVERY ****ing topic become some religious debate for you guys? Try to ****ing focus.

    I think it's great that they're putting it into the curriculum. I don't recall learning about it (other than from my own curiosity), and if I did, it didn't make any impact really. From my own, religious, perspective, it would not have had any impact on my faith at all. In fact evolution just makes everything make more sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevron View Post
    It's impossible to question the motives of someone that doesn't exist.
    I was speaking about people who believe in God. Thus they believe he exists and by saying that evolution attempts to disprove his existence, they are questioning the methods of their all-knowing God.

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    I heartily advise that all of you stop this argument before it begins. Derailing a legitimate topic over this again will be a damn shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domanskip View Post
    I was speaking about people who believe in God. Thus they believe he exists and by saying that evolution attempts to disprove his existence, they are questioning the methods of their all-knowing God.
    I think that's gonna depend on each teacher's approach to the subject.

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    I like the fact that this is being taught, both Religion and Evolution can go hand in hand... It's people taking the literal sense from the bible, he took earth and then there was man etc (don't quote me on the reference it's broad and extremely general).

    My dad was a very religious man but he was intelligent and thought for himself he taught me about evolution ... So I grew up with religion and evolution they both work well together if you don't take the literal meaning of the bible...

    On the topic of religion and why it's always brought up well sometimes it's great to hear different views and thoughts on the matter it's all about personal perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icenflame View Post
    On the topic of religion and why it's always brought up well sometimes it's great to hear different views and thoughts on the matter it's all about personal perspective.
    I agree with you totally there. Debate is all about the exchange of logical ideas for the sake of furthering the discussion. However, threads that trail off into religious discussions inevitably draw the attention of people who are unable to debate the matter in a reasonable manner, and the thread thus deteriorates into pointless arguments. We had a thread about whether or not the religious discussion should even be made, and it has run its course. I think it's better that we not resurrect the matter so soon.

    So, I say again. This topic should persist at discussing the matter at hand, and not the religious implications thereof.

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    Q-man~ the only reason its getting heated is because of you. Notice you have the power to not start getting angry.

    Ignoring the topic wont make it go away people. This is RSA, NOT USA.
    Ignorance may be bliss but shooting yourself in the foot isn't. ignoring issues is shooting yourself in the foot. Stop it!

    He who controls religion, controls the nation.

    Evolution disprooves God by saying that he is wrong. God is supposed to be infallible. There for its ****ing off alot of people.

    I find being atheist makes life less complex.

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    Agreed Icenflame. Who says God didn't work through evolution? It's my personal view that he does.
    Last edited by Cleric; 26-10-2007 at 12:20 PM.

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    Okay, show's over. Back to heterosexuality for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenfireside View Post
    Q-man~ the only reason its getting heated is because of you. Notice you have the power to not start getting angry.
    Um, no, but nice try *golf clap*

    If you care to -READ- you'd see that I, in fact, did not 'heat' anything up. Merely told those who -were-, as you put it, making things 'heated', off.

    kthx.

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    I know it's a little off topic, but its funny and people should laugh at this crap instead of getting all worked up. A goon drew it in Paint, it was about a Richard Dawkins interview with a guy that is pretty much a talkshow troll.


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    ^ Lol, I saw that on YouTube. Dawkins looked totally embarrassed to be there.

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