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    Because not all peoples tastes are the same it would be silly to open a thread for every movie that looks OK. So I give you this thread. Any awesome trailers, interesting tidbits from tinsel town or just a sweet movie you saw over the weekend gets to go here. If the movie is really awesome and needs to be discussed separately, a separate thread can be created for it.

    And just to start things of, Courtesy of GQ (Via @NickdeBruyne from Lazygamer)

    The Day the Movies Died

    You want to understand how bad things are in Hollywood right now—how stifling and airless and cautious the atmosphere is, how little nourishment or encouragement a good new idea receives, and how devoid of ambition the horizon currently appears—it helps to start with a success story.

    Consider: Years ago, an ace filmmaker, the man who happened to direct the third-highest-grossing movie in U.S. history, The Dark Knight, came up with an idea for a big summer movie. It's a story he loved—in fact, he wrote it himself—and it belonged to a genre, the sci-fi action thriller, that zipped right down the center lane of American popular taste. He cast as his leading man a handsome actor, Leonardo DiCaprio, who happened to star in the second-highest-grossing movie in history. Finally, to cover his bet even more, he hired half a dozen Oscar nominees and winners for supporting roles.

    Sounds like a sure thing, right? Exactly the kind of movie that a studio would die to have and an audience would kill to see? Well, it was. That film, Christopher Nolan's Inception, received admiring reviews, became last summer's most discussed movie, and has grossed, as of this writing, more than three-quarters of a billion dollars worldwide.

    And now the twist: The studios are trying very hard not to notice its success, or to care. Before anybody saw the movie, the buzz within the industry was: It's just a favor Warner Bros. is doing for Nolan because the studio needs him to make Batman 3. After it started to screen, the party line changed: It's too smart for the room, too smart for the summer, too smart for the audience. Just before it opened, it shifted again: Nolan is only a brand-name director to Web geeks, and his drawing power is being wildly overestimated. After it grossed $62 million on its first weekend, the word was: Yeah, that's pretty good, but it just means all the Nolan groupies came out early—now watch it drop like a stone.

    And here was the buzz three months later, after Inception became the only release of 2010 to log eleven consecutive weeks in the top ten: Huh. Well, you never know.

    "Huh. Well, you never know" is an admission that, put simply, things have never been worse.

    It has always been disheartening when good movies flop; it gives endless comfort to those who would rather not have to try to make them and can happily take cover behind a shield labeled "The people have spoken." But it's really bad news when the industry essentially rejects a success, when a movie that should have spawned two dozen taste-based gambles on passion projects is instead greeted as an unanswerable anomaly. That kind of thinking is why Hollywood studio filmmaking, as 2010 came to its end, was at an all-time low—by which I don't mean that there are fewer really good movies than ever before (last year had its share, and so will 2011) but that it has never been harder for an intelligent, moderately budgeted, original movie aimed at adults to get onto movie screens nationwide. "It's true at every studio," says producer Dan Jinks, whose credits include the Oscar winners American Beauty and Milk. "Everyone has cut back on not just 'Oscar-worthy' movies, but on dramas, period. Caution has made them pull away. It's infected the entire business."

    For the studios, a good new idea has become just too scary a road to travel. Inception, they will tell you, is an exceptional movie. And movies that need to be exceptional to succeed are bad business. "The scab you're picking at is called execution," says legendary producer Scott Rudin (The Social Network, True Grit). "Studios are hardwired not to bet on execution, and the terrible thing is, they're right. Because in terms of execution, most movies disappoint."

    With that in mind, let's look ahead to what's on the menu for this year: four adaptations of comic books. One prequel to an adaptation of a comic book. One sequel to a sequel to a movie based on a toy. One sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a movie based on an amusement-park ride. One prequel to a remake. Two sequels to cartoons. One sequel to a comedy. An adaptation of a children's book. An adaptation of a Saturday-morning cartoon. One sequel with a 4 in the title. Two sequels with a 5 in the title. One sequel that, if it were inclined to use numbers, would have to have a 7 1/2 in the title.1

    And no Inception. Now, to be fair, in modern Hollywood, it usually takes two years, not one, for an idea to make its way through the alimentary canal of the system and onto multiplex screens, so we should really be looking at summer 2012 to see the fruit of Nolan's success. So here's what's on tap two summers from now: an adaptation of a comic book. A reboot of an adaptation of a comic book. A sequel to a sequel to an adaptation of a comic book. A sequel to a reboot of an adaptation of a TV show. A sequel to a sequel to a reboot of an adaptation of a comic book. A sequel to a cartoon. A sequel to a sequel to a cartoon. A sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a cartoon. A sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a movie based on a young-adult novel.2 And soon after: Stretch Armstrong. You remember Stretch Armstrong, right? That rubberized doll you could stretch and then stretch again, at least until the sludge inside the doll would dry up and he would become Osteoporosis Armstrong? A toy that offered less narrative interest than bingo?

    Let me stipulate that we will probably come out of three or four of the movies categorized above saying "That rocked!" (One of them is even being directed by Nolan.) And yes, it is technically possible that some years hence, a magazine article will begin with the sentence, "Stretch Armstrong's surprising journey to a Best Picture nomination began when..." But for now, let's just admit it: Hollywood has become an institution that is more interested in launching the next rubberized action figure than in making the next interesting movie.

    At this moment of awards-giving and back-patting, however, we can all agree to love movies again, for a little while, because we're living within a mirage that exists for only about six or eight weeks around the end of each year. Right now, we can argue that any system that allows David Fincher to plumb the invention of Facebook and the Coen brothers to visit the old West, that lets us spend the holidays gorging on new work by Darren Aronofsky and David O. Russell, has got to mean that American filmmaking is in reasonably good health. But the truth is that we'll be back to summer—which seems to come sooner every year—in a heartbeat. And it's hard to hold out much hope when you hear the words that one studio executive, who could have been speaking for all her kin, is ready to chisel onto Hollywood's tombstone: "We don't tell stories anymore."

    1. Captain America, Cowboys & Aliens, Green Lantern, and Thor; X-Men: First Class; Transformers 3; Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides; Rise of the Apes; Cars 2 and Kung Fu Panda 2; The Hangover Part II; Winnie the Pooh; The Smurfs in 3D; Spy Kids 4; Fast Five and Final Destination 5; Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2.

    2. The Avengers; Spider-Man (3D); Men in Black 3 (3D); Star Trek untitled; Batman 3; Monsters, Inc. 2; Madagascar 3; Ice Age: Continental Drift in 3D; The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 2.
    P.S. If the mods think this isn't such a good idea and we should create more threads, feel free to bomb this thread from morbid.
    Last edited by echo; 01-03-2011 at 01:35 PM.

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    Soft of on that topic, Cracked had some good articles up recently that I quite enjoyed:
    5 Hollywood Secrets That Explain Why So Many Movies Suck
    6 Awards That Would Actually Make The Oscars Worth Watching

    The "Opening Credits" award actually sounds like a neat idea, that is, if I actually gave a damn about the Oscars.

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    I'm a sucker for found footage movies, so this is right up my alley.

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    Whats with TRON? It was good....

    But yes, I have to agree with it all up there. Its been a topic at our film academy for a while and guess what: Right now its best to start your own film company or join up with a little one. The big ones are just rollin' & rollin' in the endless.
    Their budget is a most of the time a waste of money. You can get a burger for a crew member for $2. What they do is they buy one for $4. Get it? Thats the reason why the system in Hollywood is messed up and then of coarse the whole "Make 10 bad movies and one good movie. Take the profit from the 10 bad movies, put it in the 1 good movie and woalla - maximum profit)
    Game studios also use this strategy....

    *puke

    I saw plenty of 18-22 year young SA students who wrote better story concepts & scripts than most of the Hollywood people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KFC View Post
    Whats with TRON? It was good....

    But yes, I have to agree with it all up there. Its been a topic at our film academy for a while and guess what: Right now its best to start your own film company or join up with a little one. The big ones are just rollin' & rollin' in the endless.
    Their budget is a most of the time a waste of money. You can get a burger for a crew member for $2. What they do is they buy one for $4. Get it? Thats the reason why the system in Hollywood is messed up and then of coarse the whole "Make 10 bad movies and one good movie. Take the profit from the 10 bad movies, put it in the 1 good movie and woalla - maximum profit)
    Game studios also use this strategy....

    *puke

    I saw plenty of 18-22 year young SA students who wrote better story concepts & scripts than most of the Hollywood people.

    Hmm . . .
    Interesting

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    Oscar winners

    Los Angeles - The full list of 2011 Oscar winners as they are announced onstage at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood at a ceremony hosted by James Franco and Anne Hathaway.

    Best Motion Picture

    The King's Speech

    Best Actor

    Colin Firth, The King's Speech

    Best Actress

    Natalie Portman, Black Swan

    Best Supporting Actor

    Christian Bale, The Fighter

    Best Supporting Actress

    Melissa Leo, The Fighter

    Best Director

    Tom Hooper, The King's Speech

    Best Original Screenplay

    David Seidler, The King's Speech

    Best Adapted Screenplay

    Aaron Sorkin, The Social Network

    Best Animated Film

    Toy Story 3

    Best Foreign Language Film

    In a Better World: Susanne Bier (Denmark)

    Best Achievement in Cinematography

    Wally Pfister, Inception

    Best Achievement in Editing

    Kirk Baxter, Angus Wall, The Social Network

    Best Achievement in Art Direction

    Stefan Dechant, Alice in Wonderland

    Best Achievement in Costume Design

    Colleen Atwood, Alice in Wonderland

    Best Achievement in Make-up

    The Wolfman

    Best Original Score

    Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross - The Social Network

    Best Original Song

    Toy Story 3: Randy Newman ("We Belong Together")

    Best Achievement in Sound Mixing

    Inception

    Best Achievement in Sound Editing

    Inception

    Best Achievement in Visual Effects

    Inception

    Best Documentary

    Inside Job

    Best Documentary, Short Subjects

    Strangers No More

    Best Short Film, Animated

    The Lost Thing

    Best Short Film, Live Action

    God of Love
    Got up for this this morning at 3 at it was totally worth it. Happy with almost all the winners. Inception won 4 and Batman Bale also got an Oscar. Woohoo!

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    No surprises in the big catagories. Pity that Aranofsky didn't take best director, but what can you do?

    Oh and most importantly, Trent Reznor now has an oscar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric View Post
    Oh and most importantly, Trent Reznor now has an oscar!
    Yeah, it's quite an accomplishment. Just yesterday he was singing about ****ing people like animals and today he's carrying Oscars.

    Good to see he got the recognition he deserves.

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    Hans Zimmer's epic as **** score lost to Trent Reznor?

    Seriously? This didn't win? That **** makes me want to jump out a window and save a kitten stuck in a tree.

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    Best Achievement in Make-up

    The Wolfman
    Say what? Most of the wolf stuff in that film was digital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pArkEr View Post
    Hans Zimmer's epic as **** score lost to Trent Reznor?

    Seriously? This didn't win? That **** makes me want to jump out a window and save a kitten stuck in a tree.
    Oh Zimmer's score is epic alright, but when it comes to "blending" with the film, he has always been a bit of a failure.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Zimmer's score, but I bought the Social Network soundtrack as it has so much soul in it that no amount of "BWAAAAAAAAAM" can make up for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric View Post
    but when it comes to "blending" with the film, he has always been a bit of a failure.
    Wut. Zimmer is a ****ing genius.

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    Oh, he's a genius, no doubt. I love each and every one of his scores. But personally I often feel that it is too... noticable in the films he does.
    But yeah, failure was WAAAAAY too strong of a word though.

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    Saw Megamind recently, which Zimmer also worked on, so much ****ing win in that movie.

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    The media said that "The Tourist" wasnt a good movie.
    I've seen it now.
    Why the hell isnt it a good movie?
    It had brilliant Cinematography, focused especially on the Mise-en-Scene.
    The story was "OKAY" and at some parts really thrilling, bringing out the drama between him and her.
    It was predictable, yet they played with that predictability to make us not entirely sure on whats really going on, which was good.
    Costume and music was good.
    Acting was rather blegh.
    What you guys think?

    (Oh and - If you like Hans Zimmer music and this type of music, try to get as much of the "Audiomachine" and "Immediate Music" songs...)

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    I recently watched In The Realm Of The Senses, and while it's basically a porno (considering the threadbare plot and unsimulated intercourse it contains), the cinematography -at times- is simply breathtaking (especially early in the film). I also enjoyed Inside Job; it blows the mind :D

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    I watched "Drive Angry". And as far as i can understand the plot involves Nicholas Cage driving out of hell, and finding his daughter's daughter? Either way he shoots a lot of people with a shotgun, it's funny and doesn't take itself too seriously. And in THREE-DEE there are a lot of "JISSEM!!!" moments!

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    From what I've heard, it's the best "grind-house" type film to come out in a while and is not to be missed.

    Saw Rango, and while it's not as sharply written as most Pixar films, the visuals are just the best out there at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric View Post
    Saw Rango, and while it's not as sharply written as most Pixar films, the visuals are just the best out there at the moment.
    It's Nickelodeon, hence why it is not sharp.

    Saw it on Saturday, it was a predictable as the sun rising in the morning which meant the story was horrid for me. I think I laughed once, the rest of the humour was just lost on me. Completely.
    On the flip side, the visual effects were amazing - well worth seeing this movie on a quality screen to appreciate it. So that redeemed the movie a bit more :)

    Clint Eastwood look alike in the movie was good :)


    Anyone seen The Fighter? Any good?

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    The Fighter is top shelf, certainly one of the best films from last year. I'm not sure where all of the recent love to small-town Boston is coming from recently, but it's generated some amazing films.

    Reminds me, if anyone hasn't seen The Town, make a plan a check it out asap. It's like the best parts of Heat amped up to 11.

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