Well done.Originally Posted by wisp
Although the hard part is not losing the weight, it's keeping it from stacking back on again.
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Well done.
Although the hard part is not losing the weight, it's keeping it from stacking back on again.
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Cool wisp, just stick with it, you're making us proud.
It took me 2 years to lose 30kg. In the first year I only lost about 10kg but that's when I built up all the knowledge that I needed and lost 20 the next year.
Having said that, I never used weight to measure my progress anyway. Body fat % is what counts. I went from 30% body fat down to 16%. Over the course of another two years my weight increased by 20kg and I weighed 110kg while still remaining at 16%, so weight is just a number. So yeah, if you train hard and eat the correct foods you'll lose weight and start to gain again as soon as you start building muscle but that's only if you want too.
Suffice to say, I stopped trainer 3 years ago and now weigh 130kg. :/
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im also at 132KGs :D need to go down to 115 KGs :D Or close to as that is what i weighed playing Inside Centre for Lions Craven week a couple of years back :D
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^^ Worst is buying clothes. Not a lot of shops stock 3XL and with some brands 4XL shirts. I hate it.
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115kg Binnesenter? Holy ****. I wouldn't want to get near you in a game!
Not implying anything, but in Pretoria in Voortrekker road there's a shop called "Men's Plus Size Clothing" who specialize in, well, men's plus size clothing. Worth taking a look if you're desperate. I myself am 1.9m and a mere 81kg. So, I fall in the average range.
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Yeah lol .. was flanker till they decided i was a crash ball :/ I wasnt really quick enough for backline . 11 - 12.5s per 100M
In centurion there is Big mens out fitters .. where the shoes start at nr 10 and go to 16 :D Really worth a look there aswell ..
I wear a Nr44 pants and 2XL or 3XL so i normally come right at Edgars . in the Kobus Wiese wing :D
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What about us skinny dudes? Any healthy diets for picking up weight?
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Heh, I used to be a skinny dude who struggled to pick up wait, now in just a single year, I'm strugging to lose it again. McDonalds. :P
Anyway, I *tried* gaining some more muscle last year, but with my body type it's really difficult. The best piece of advice I ever got, is to just eat a lot of protiens and have a proper training program worked out for yourself. It sounds obvious, but it does work wonders. I built a lot more muscle weight once I started eating protien with every meal. If you're like me, and don't like the prospect of fish or eggs with every meal, just eat avocados. Loaded with protien and goes well with anything.
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Calorie dense foods like milk and peanut butter, plus lifting heavy and you will pick up weight pretty easily.
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I managed a 100m time of just over 10secs in matric. I don't think I'll even reach 100m nowadays, the most exercise I get is running to the fridge and back... :P
Either way, I've been looking at gaining weight for years now, and nothing works. I'm sersiously considering joining a gym now, as I'm sick and tired of my skinny arms. My legs were always doing the work, as I rode bicycle for ~10 years before I got a car. I think this has something to do with the fact that I could do a fast 100m.
I'm so sick and tired of peanut butter already, you just have no idea. I love the avo's idea, you can use them anywhere. As a snack, on toast, on pizza (with chicken and sweet chilli, holy **** it's heaven!) or with chopped bacon.
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I usually just cut them in half, add salt and pepper, and there's my dinner. :P
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I sometimes substitute Pepper for Aromat, but both serve the purpose.
I'm quite fond of mashing it up and spreading it on toast with a bit of Aromat and sliced chillies.
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Thing is whenever I see my family they always say their worried I'm too skinny - and they think it's cos I don't eat enough - but as a matter of fact I eat very well. I eat Rice Crispies for breakfast; I have a sandwiche and a yougghurt for brunch around 10:00; I'll usually have an apple some time between then and lunchtime, cos I love apples. Then for lunch I have two sandwiches, a yoghurt, and two pieces of fruit. Then again at 15:00 I'm usually feeling peckish and will have half a sandwiche or a full sandwiche depending. I pack my sandwiches with a bit of variety - generally 1x Egg+Mayo; 1x Tuna+Mayo; 2x Ham+Cheese+Lettuce. I have a large dinner served to me every night (included in my rent) which the majority of the time is usually very wholesome, and which I generally eat in two parts. I cannot finish a full plate of food in one sitting, I think this is partly why my family gets worried when they see me for functions. However, as far as I know, it is actually healthier to eat this way. Then throughout the night it is not uncommon to have a Peanut Butter or marmite sandwiche and some fruit. I'm 1.7m tall and weigh 56kg. If I look at that on the body mass scale thing then it means I'm below average weight - but not unhealthy. So, as far as I'm concerned I have a perfectly healthy diet, I live a fairly active lifestyle skating and playing the odd game of footie - and I'm not willing to stuff myself like a pig (which is what most guys have advised me to do) just because of some gender stereotyping. The thing that's most frustrating is that they keep calling comparison to my cousin who was way skinny up until the age of +-16- then he suddenly widened and grew epic muscles. I personally don't know why they can't see he's clearly doing creatine (sic) or steroids pills or something - he is way out of proportion to what he should be at his age, it's just sad that this is becoming the norm so you don't really notice when you see a bunch of young dudes together. Also funny how nobody seems to note that he put his fist through a glass window because his mom dared embaress him in front his friends - because she left a dirty teaspoon with the old teabag on the counter! Steroid-induced-anger-management-issues (and possibly a touch of spoilt rotten to add)? Of course no, sweet little boy is just going through his teens. *rolls eyes* Not to mention I'm 26 years old, and as far as I can remember I've always been the thin guy.
So yeah, that is my dilemma. I reckon the best thing I should do is go see a dietician and put their minds at ease, but that's hella expensive.
/spilling guts to total strangers. :D
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I'm so sick and tired of peanut butter already, you just have no idea. I love the avo's idea, you can use them anywhere. As a snack, on toast, on pizza (with chicken and sweet chilli, holy **** it's heaven!) or with chopped bacon.[/QUOTE]
I love peanut butter with a passion. 2 to 3 tablespoons everyday:) Yeah that's right out of the jar, no bread required:)
Glass of milk + spoon of peanut butter = heaven.
Edit: Meh I'm such a forum noob, got that quote all wrong:)
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Wisp, changing your lifestyle is the best thing that will happen to you. Even if progress is slow never give up.
I could give you all the info you need but it is better if you go to http://www.muscleevolution.co.za/ and start chatting on those forums if you really want to empower yourself with nutritional knowledge. The likes of Marius Dohn and many other pros are there to give even the most novice people advise on anything from fitness to muscle building to diets.
If not, the most basic advise would be to check out USN diets. Its hard but if you can stick it out 4 months will be enough to lose all that fat. With some basic upper body exercise of course.
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This is a great piece of advice, especially if you want to build muscle.
My brother recently started getting into shape, he visits these forums regularly. He has changed rapidly in the last few months, but its a lot of hard work. Loosing weight, and building muscle especially is no easy task, it takes a lot of time, will power and dedication.
It took me a year to go from fat to having a nice body, and that was with eating well and gyming for an hour or 2 at least 5 days a week. I have slacked off since the beginning of this year, but I do sit ups/push ups most nights just to keep the stomach away. I get enough cardio at work walking around the mine, so I am lucky in that sense. Once you get to that target its fairly easy to keep it, but getting there is the problem.
So the best advice as its been said plenty times before, eat well and exercises as much as you can. Remember, don't take shortcuts! A diet is a lazy excuse for loosing weight, hard work and sweat is the only way.
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For those trying to gain weight there's GOMAD- gallon of milk a day. Of course you'd also have to work out, otherwise you'd just get fat. If you want to do a bit more research just go through some of these threads on reddit. You'll get some good info from guys who have gone through the diet. In fact I'd say reddit is one of the best places for information.
@ ioiiooio, ever considered that you might also be feeding a huge ****ing worm in your stomach?
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Now that's just downright creepy.
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None taken bud. Trust me I've tried similar shops. Problem is, I'm big-fat, not fat-fat. ;)
I wear a size 42 pant size but a 3XL shirt, my shoulders and stuffs just too big from when I used to train. So my dilemma is, "normal" companies like Echo, Element, Quicksilver and the like make "normal" people shirts up to 3XL, those don't fit. Size up type stores usually only start from sizes 5XL and up and if you can find a 3XL shirt they are tailored for larger folks so they tend to be way too long.
Luckily it's better than when I trained, I had a 36" waist but had to wear 38" pants because my legs were too big.
I mostly find stuff in the Kobus section in Edgars like cranky but they hardly ever seem to have stock of anything.
Actually that's not advisable. The last thing you wanna be is a skinny fat person. Also, eating a lot of fatty foods isn't good for you except when used correctly. Remember that body fat % I mentioned. You want healthy weight.
You really need to go see a credited dietician if possible. There are 100s of factors to consider (from your metabolism to possible mineral imbalances) so giving a solid answer would be impossible. There are however some guidelines and factors that you need to consider.
Firstly, whether you want to loose weight or gain, 90% of you're gains or loses whichever way you want to look at it comes from nutrition. I managed to stay in very good shape for a year without a single day in the gym all because my nutrition was spot on. It was only when I added KFC every single day that things went downhill. So the key as with anything is balance, trust me, without balance your results won't last. So you need everything, even the bad stuff, the key in that is finding the best ratio for your body.
Obviously the advice I'll give is if your serious about gaining healthy weight (read muscle, you don't want to gain anything else) as it will take a **** load of work.
You need the good stuff. Good carbs, proteins and fats. I cannot list them all but I'm sure that if you head over to bodybuilding.com you'll get all the info that you need. Intake ratios differ depending on who you talk to. You can start off by consuming 2500 calories a day (you want to get as close to say 3500 calories as possible, you can go for more but as you'll soon find out, it costs a lot of $). So calories work like this, 9g (that's gram) of fat = 1 calorie, 4g carbohydrate = 1 calorie, 4g protein = 1 calorie. Now these figure are constants, they don't change no matter what the hell you eat.
Now you need a ratio of carbs, fats, proteins. A good base is always 40/40/20. Thus, 40% carbs, 40 % protein, 20% fat. So lets take a look at your total intake, 2500 cal and you get 1000 calories from carbs, 1000 from protein, 500 from fats. Ok 1000 divided by 4 gives you 250g carbs and 250g protein and 500 divided by 9 is 55 grams of fat.
So things are making sense now right? At least you have some guidelines now. 250g protein, 250g carbs and 55g fat. No that we have the easy part out the way, you need to figure out how you'll get all this food into your body. 2500 cal doesn't sound like much and if you eat at KFC it ain't but replace junk with wholesome foods and you get a ton of food (which is always nice). This is where it gets personal and this is the reason why I don't believe it pre planned eating plans (even though they're healthy). I can tell you to eat a can of tuna and a tub of cottage cheese with 10 provitas every day for lunch but lets face it, if you have 6 meals and only one of them cost roughly R30 to prepare you'll end up spending R180 a day on food alone, that's almost R5500 a month, for one person.
Take you're 250g, 250g and 55g for fat and divide them by 6. 41g carbs, 41g protein and 9.1g of fat per meal. Follow this link http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/nutrient.htm , it will show you how many nutrients most foods contain. Just look at what you can afford and try and reach those targets set. If you can only get 2000 healthy calories in a day then that's fine, I bet it's way better than what it is at the moment.
Do this and monitor your results for at least three months, if you don't see any progress then change your ratio to 30/50/20 for example.
Oh yeah some tips. Most "skinny" people have fast metabolisms so you can slow it down a bit which would help you to gain some weight easier. Saturated fat isn't really good for you but it can be beneficial. A table spoon of peanut butter which is packed with saturated fats before bed can slow your metabolism down during sleep (which is when you break down the most muscle) which would help a lot. Also, a tub of low fat cottage cheese before bed contains casein protein which gets released slowly throughout the night and can do a world of wonders.
Also, don't ever do roids. Your body will grow uneven (arms bigger than legs etc) and you'll and up looking like a ****. Supplements are overrated.
Last edited by Toi; 13-06-2011 at 10:04 PM.
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This is interesting.
Personally, I recommend to all people to avoid suger-based drinks (you don't have to banish them... just limit their intake). Monstrous sugar intake, and they don't actually help with thirst as much as one may think.
I live quite a healthy lifestyle, with the glaring exception of a lack of excersize. I'm not horribly unfit (I'm energetic, and can expend energy for extended periods of time, and I can walk for hours), but I do lack in fitness. I also couldn't suffer to get more (ie, any) veggies into my diet.
I drink water the majority of the time, fruit juice the rest of the time, coke only when I go to the movies, and alcohol only very rarely, and then it's socially. For breakfast, it's 3 bricks of weet-bix with a large bowl filled with full-cream milk. Lunch it's two chicken burgers. Supper it's either two pieces of crumbed fish, or a beef&onion/Chicken&mayonase/mince tramezini. Inbetween that, peanut butter sandwhiches, pears, apples, and naatjies if they are in season. It's also really light on the wallet - I spend between R250-R300 for shopping, that lasts me 8-12 days (that includes days I may have lunch/supper out - saving some food). I've also learned to temper my desire for Chocolates and Ice Cream. I never buy them, but accept when offered :D
Oh, another thing that someone revealed to me: The ability of food to "fill you up" is not based on quantity, but quality. I was honestly really, really surprised to find out how much more filling it was to just add some red peppers and cucumber to my chicken burgers.
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