Thread of diets and exercise

[Goraan]

was done exercising, I felt exactly like I had a hangover - headache, extreme nausea, dizziness, sweaty, muscle weakness, tiredness, etc.

As a result of the oxygen delivery to your muscles. Your cardiovascular system is not in a fit state to provide the oxygen and depleted minerals back to your damaged muscles. Once you get fitter this will go away, when your body learns to cope with the strain.

[Toxxyc]

Yeah I figured as much. Will a creatine supplement be a good idea to start off with, or a mixture of creatine and protein/calcium to assist in all areas, even in the "getting fit" stage?

[Goraan]

Yeah I figured as much. Will a creatine supplement be a good idea to start off with, or a mixture of creatine and protein/calcium to assist in all areas, even in the "getting fit" stage?

Creatine is associated with bulking more than fitness. It will force water and nutrients into your muscle speeding up recovery time as well as muscle build but you will retain some of this while you're on creatine cycle. If you want to build then creatine is an okay idea, but starting off stick with protein and multi vitamins until your body has adjusted to training. Get a bit fitter and a bit stronger then start looking into creatine to improve your foundations. Don't jump head first into an advanced supplement.

[Flangenimblick]

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[Flangenimblick]

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[BattleMoose]

Yeah I figured as much. Will a creatine supplement be a good idea to start off with, or a mixture of creatine and protein/calcium to assist in all areas, even in the "getting fit" stage?

I would really strongly recommend gyming regularly, 3-4 times a week for several months before even considering using creatine, if you can get that routine going and are happy with it, then go with the creatine. As a beginner to weight lifting, you should see some rapid improvements without any supplements whatsoever.

[Toxxyc]

I would really strongly recommend gyming regularly, 3-4 times a week for several months before even considering using creatine, if you can get that routine going and are happy with it, then go with the creatine. As a beginner to weight lifting, you should see some rapid improvements without any supplements whatsoever.

I'm doing 3 times a week now, doing as much as I can until I feel I shouldn't do more (don't want to hurt myself this early on). I've decided against the creatine supplement at this time, think I want to get gym-fit first before I start building. I'm going for a regular protein supplement ASAP though, to just repair quicker after gym sessions, because today I'm feeling Monday's exercise a lot more than yesterday and it's not really nice. I like a little pain, it makes me feel "mortal", but feeling more or less the same way I did after my car accident isn't as enjoyable.

With regards to change, I can already feel difference, even after one practice session. I can feel exactly where I stressed what muscles, and I'm proud of myself that even after three years the ice skating and cycling I did is paying off - I've got no fatigue, pain or stiffness in my legs. It may change after today's spinning though, so let's just stop there... :P

[Goraan]

I'm doing 3 times a week now, doing as much as I can until I feel I shouldn't do more (don't want to hurt myself this early on). I've decided against the creatine supplement at this time, think I want to get gym-fit first before I start building. I'm going for a regular protein supplement ASAP though, to just repair quicker after gym sessions, because today I'm feeling Monday's exercise a lot more than yesterday and it's not really nice. I like a little pain, it makes me feel "mortal", but feeling more or less the same way I did after my car accident isn't as enjoyable.

With regards to change, I can already feel difference, even after one practice session. I can feel exactly where I stressed what muscles, and I'm proud of myself that even after three years the ice skating and cycling I did is paying off - I've got no fatigue, pain or stiffness in my legs. It may change after today's spinning though, so let's just stop there... :P

Remember you get different types of protein. If you want a fast acting protein that is taken into the muscles quickly go for a Whey blend, Alternatively you can go for an IGF-1 Protein which is a slow release protein. Use Whey straight after workouts to aid in muscle recovery. Use IGF-1 as a before bedtime supplement to facilitate muscle repair while you sleep. I would also suggest you get a very good multi-vitamin as this type of gym routine will take nutrients faster than you can eat them back in with food.

[Toxxyc]

So, something like this together with something like a Centrum every day? If yes, I'm buying it this afternoon. :)

[Goraan]

So, something like this together with something like a Centrum every day? If yes, I'm buying it this afternoon. :)

The IGF is for slow release, it also tastes a lot like sawdust. But yes, that and Centrum will work nicely.

[Toxxyc]

Sawdust you say... Damn. I was targeting it specifically because of the "tastes great" line. I reckon chocolate sawdust will be the least ****ty. But thanks. I'll get some this afternoon and see what kind of a difference it makes, if any, in the immediate reparation of my aching arms.

EDIT: So I went and bought this one instead. The Hydro package costs about 50% more, and for me I don't think it's worth getting at this stage. Also, the one I got was on special, so I got another 1kg on top of the 2kg I bought for free. Ended up costing R460 for the 3kg package, which isn't bad at all. Totals to 107 servings, and I'm going to be taking one in the morning (with breakfast) and one in the evening (as my night-time "beverage"). I just hope it helps the recovery of my muscles quickly, because at this time I feel like a lactating mother who got kicked in the breast. **** it hurts. :/

[BattleMoose]

When you first start up, stiffness can last for a week or so, in my experience, but after you exercise regularly, the stiffness lasts a lot short, if at all. It is largely something that will pass and will stop being a problem. I only get stiff now if I target a muscle group I don't regularly train or push for a personal best and it is much more mild than the stiffness I got when I first started. I actually really enjoy the stiffness now, its a feeling of progress. :P

[Toxxyc]

Yeah I don't mind the stiffness at all. If stiff stuff bothered me, I'd be in a lot of trouble (dirty sex joke intended). I'm currently in actual pain. It's not fun anymore, my second day after practice is always worse than the first. I'm considering a muscle relaxer, but that's a bad idea for a pre-workout setup... :P

[GeometriX]

Just go back to gym, do a light routine. Or go for a jog or something. The best way to work out stiffness is to work it out.

[Goraan]

@Toxxyc I should have probably mentioned this before but get yourself some L-Glutamine from USN or a Glutamine supplement. It aids a serious amount in muscle recovery.

[Toxxyc]

@Toxxyc I should have probably mentioned this before but get yourself some L-Glutamine from USN or a Glutamine supplement. It aids a serious amount in muscle recovery.

Any idea what this stuff may cost? I'm kinda broke at this time, due to several copies of AC: Brotherhood being pre-ordered for friends and whatnot...

[Yuri]

@Toxxyc. Dude, stop wasting your cash on supplements. You don't need them. Your first thought once you hit the gym might be to start buying into all this crap about what supplements you need. Stop, cos there is not one supplement on the market that you need to achieve your goals.

Your money is better spent on realfood. For example that R460 you spent, you can go to Makro and walk away with 68 cans of tuna for R462, and that's 27g of protein per can.
Real food will ALWAYS be a better option than supplements.

[Grasshopper]

Just thought I'd share this comic...



Whenever I get frustrated or demotivated with exercise, it always helps me person the hell up and follow through with my gym plans...

[Goraan]

Any idea what this stuff may cost? I'm kinda broke at this time, due to several copies of AC: Brotherhood being pre-ordered for friends and whatnot...

Its not too expensive as far as I remember. And it lasts for a very very long time. Its like 180 bucks for a 500g bottle and you only use the tip of a tea-spoon per serving.

@Toxxyc. Dude, stop wasting your cash on supplements. You don't need them. Your first thought once you hit the gym might be to start buying into all this crap about what supplements you need. Stop, cos there is not one supplement on the market that you need to achieve your goals.

Your money is better spent on realfood. For example that R460 you spent, you can go to Makro and walk away with 68 cans of tuna for R462, and that's 27g of protein per can.
Real food will ALWAYS be a better option than supplements.

You use the word always there as if it means something. Sure food has value, but supplements can give you more of what you need in greater quantities than you can get from food. Your body can only strip so much out of your food, and more if it is in a concentrated form. No one is pushing the use of a stack r a cut supplement. But Glutamine and protein supplements are very useful even to purest bodybuilders. Besides, you can only eat -so much- brown rich and grilled skinless chicken breast before you realise maybe protein shake and oats is a valuable combo.

I have been gyming for a very long time and I have tried the purely food method. It works to be sure but supplements have value too.