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    I didn't know you realized that and removed the question. :P

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    See, Miktar, this is another example of what I was talking to Gazza_N about. But thanks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaster View Post
    @Epsi: I'm in no way offended by your post, I tend to ignore comments like that, but others might not.
    But I don't like your oppinion that people should be bound by social stereotypes. If a guy wants to play with a barbie then so be it.
    Ever wonderd where social stereotypes comes from? Its years of evolition. Must respect that.

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    Yeah, I see what you're getting at - but forums are just like this, they crystallize information and then people experience it at different times. Of course you're gonna get some asynchronous ****ups. :P

    Just go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epsi View Post
    Ever wonderd where social stereotypes comes from? Its years of evolition. Must respect that.
    Social stereotypes are memetic constructions - and yes, they do evolve: but nowhere is there a law that states you need to accept social stereotypes.

    Stereotypes lead to stagnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epsi View Post
    Ever wonderd where social stereotypes comes from? Its years of evolition. Must respect that.
    Um.

    ...

    Oh, I just can't.

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    s gonna find ya, he's gonna getcha getcha getcha Gazza_N's Avatar
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    @Epsi: <--- (clever me! No more confyoojin!)

    Social stereotypes are viral memes that are created and perpetuated through narrow-mindedness. They are a sad offshoot of the human need to classify, and are often completely false, if you haven't noticed yet. "Evolution"? More like the antithesis of it.

    EDIT: CRUD! Miktar beat me to it >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epsi View Post
    Ever wonderd where social stereotypes comes from? Its years of evolition. Must respect that.
    Stereotyping is a useful survival mechanism. The primivative man couldn't just think one lion is dangerous because the others didn't attack him(yet). He must think all lions are dangerous(this is in essence a stereotype) and thereby staying alive because he avoids them.

    However it has become obsolete(and again your being hard headed by ignoring what everyone is saying). People are different, not all psycopaths(I talking about the condition about not having a concionce not the killing) go on to killing people, therefore we should not stereotype them as such.

    Stereotypes are generally damaging and prevent people from living their lives to the fullest because of people judging them by them.
    Last edited by ShadowMaster; 24-08-2007 at 05:30 PM.

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    Curse the male neanderthal urge to procreate.
    To really understand the "DO WANT!" nature of man when he sees a truly spectacular piece of tail walk by, you simply have to have a pair.
    Unfortunately with such levels of constant desire comes objectification. WANT car! WANT game! WANT punani! Since stereotyping of inanimates is pretty much par for the course (eg German cars rock, American cars blow...), it's just a short line in the sand to cross over to gender stereotyping.
    Such is life, and it is manifestly pointless to cry about it. May as well embrace what you are.

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    To clarify : What I ment by "SIMS is like playing dolls" is = In SIMS (as well as many other games) you create your own world and characters in that world. It is a product of your imagination , yet it is also 'real' . Just like playing with barbies or GI Joes. Typically , playing 'happy family' is assosiated with girls , and more voilent competitive games are assosiated with guys . NOW HERE COMES THE PUNCH LINE : note that i said "typically assosiated" , not exlusively assosiated! Each person regardless of gender/race/etc have their own unique tastes , and OF COURSE some guys will play with barbie and be straight , and some girls will become plumbers...but , there are certain GENERAL behavior trends that are dictated by society , I DO NOT SAY THAT STEREOTYPING IS CORRECT OR NICE , BUT IT IS A FACT AND IS THERE.

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    s gonna find ya, he's gonna getcha getcha getcha Gazza_N's Avatar
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    It wasn't so much what you had to say as how you said it, I think. Anyway, enough battling. I think everyone's made their points. Can't speak for the others, but no hard feelings from my side (awwwww :p).

    Besides, good debates are awesome. ;)



    EDIT: And now I've got me a nifty description thing below my nick. It is nice down here... Nice fish's *gollum*
    Last edited by Gazza_N; 24-08-2007 at 09:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza_N View Post
    It wasn't so much what you had to say as how you said it, I think. Anyway, enough battling. I think everyone's made their points. Can't speak for the others, but no hard feelings from my side (awwwww :p).

    Besides, good debates are awesome. ;)
    I agree, in Life Orientation we learnt that 90% of communication happens on a non verbal level. So sighing in one way can have a totally different meaning than sighing in another.
    Sometimes even the position of the commas changes the meaning of the sentence completely. Therefore proofread your posts to ensure that there is no ambigiuties in what you mean.

    But as for a good debate being fun, it is.

    @Epsi: No hard feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaster View Post
    But as for a good debate being fun, it is.

    @Epsi: No hard feelings.
    I really didn't mean to offend you in any way. Glad to hear there's no hard feeelings.

    And I woudnt really call it a debate... more like a "bash Epsi". But it's cool.

    Enjoy your weekends.

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    s gonna find ya, he's gonna getcha getcha getcha Gazza_N's Avatar
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    Ah! But a debate doesn't involve bashing the person, just their arguments. Sadly, people do take debates like this in the wrong way, especially when the only means of communication is text. There was nothing personal here. At least not from me. Although it did get a bit heated in places...

    Anyway, enjoy your weekend too. :)
    Last edited by Gazza_N; 24-08-2007 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza_N View Post
    @Epsi: <--- (clever me! No more confyoojin!)
    Thats the only thing that ****ed me off...

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    s gonna find ya, he's gonna getcha getcha getcha Gazza_N's Avatar
    Gamertag: GazzaN ZA Steam ID: Gazza_N

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    Oh... That was actually a reference to how everyone was getting confused as to who was addressing who during the Great Parallel Posting (you saw ShadowMaster, Miktar and myself discussing how posts were going out of synch). "No more confusion" because I was directing the post to a specific person via the @. "Clever me" and weird spelling for humorous effect. I can see how that could've been misinterpreted...
    Last edited by Gazza_N; 24-08-2007 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaster View Post
    Because currently my respect rating for you is at zero and fortunately I doesn't go any lower. So you have nothing to lose.
    @Epsi: if this hurt I ask you your forgiveness.

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    don't trust me - I use a photo of my kids as my avatar for a reason

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    You guys totally hijacked my e-penis thread.
    I've always wanted to start an a thread with the word "e-penis" in the title - and then you all started talking about dolls and gays! Damn, talk about derailment!

    By the way, the first people who figured out how to sell dolls to guys by calling them "action figures" - GENIUS! :)

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